also sorry, my elten glitched and put the y somewhere else.

that actually wasn't her fault. she was undergoing an investigation and i believe you wern't warned.
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fou also must be careful with the warnings you give out, no? I believe you did or almost did warn me for trying to defuse a conversation a few days ago.ter that many warnings I personYally wouldn't give admin rights to any of you. And it's not because I'd have some personal grudges against you, but for such a job you need to behave adequately, always, there's no exception. You can't say you had a bad day, or you banned someone because you wanted to have some fun with your friends.

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Regardless, that was not at all made clear
-- (GamerKid):
that actually wasn't her fault. she was undergoing an investigation and i believe you wern't warned.
-- (AjanH):
fou also must be careful with the warnings you give out, no? I believe you did or almost did warn me for trying to defuse a conversation a few days ago.ter that many warnings I personYally wouldn't give admin rights to any of you. And it's not because I'd have some personal grudges against you, but for such a job you need to behave adequately, always, there's no exception. You can't say you had a bad day, or you banned someone because you wanted to have some fun with your friends.

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and also to be fair, we need a rules document explaining the rules. not only would that help new users, but every time you register an elten account you must read the rules and accept them. even if you've registered before. it would keep this drama fest in forums from happening.

Ajan, do you see that you, even now, are derailing the topic in a completely different way? Noone has talked about not valid warnings, or anything in connection with that. We are all about making this community better, but instead of showing that you'd either do a better job, or you could contribute, you keep throwing accusations at people.

I'll leave this thread for now. It's after midnight in Poland, let's wait for those people who haven't had a chance to comment yet. :)

to be fair though, he was trying to communicate with you and you are active here. i'm not saying derailing the topic is ok, but i do see where he is coming from arctic moon.
-- (ArcticMoon):
Ajan, do you see that you, even now, are derailing the topic in a completely different way? Noone has talked about not valid warnings, or anything in connection with that. We are all about making this community better, but instead of showing that you'd either do a better job, or you could contribute, you keep throwing accusations at people.

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That is where your wrong and I have a problem with your words because my first post was actually about that. and you are not looking at everything before accusing me of derailing
-- (ArcticMoon):
Ajan, do you see that you, even now, are derailing the topic in a completely different way? Noone has talked about not valid warnings, or anything in connection with that. We are all about making this community better, but instead of showing that you'd either do a better job, or you could contribute, you keep throwing accusations at people.

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Yes, to be honest I'm also planning to do so. It's late here in Hungary as well and since today I got up at like 8 AM, I'm a little bit tired, especially for such things. :)

-- (pajper):
I'll leave this thread for now. It's after midnight in Poland, let's wait for those people who haven't had a chance to comment yet. :)

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so, if y'all are leaving i'm asuming admins all over elten will not be responding to any drama if it were to happen?
-- (ArcticMoon):
Yes, to be honest I'm also planning to do so. It's late here in Hungary as well and since today I got up at like 8 AM, I'm a little bit tired, especially for such things. :)

-- (pajper):
I'll leave this thread for now. It's after midnight in Poland, let's wait for those people who haven't had a chance to comment yet. :)

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Which sums up the problem nicely. But don't worry, the big advantage of clearing threads is that deleting posts takes less time than writing them. :)

true

I'm looking at the topic yet for a while, but sorry Gamerkid, I'm also a person and in need of some sleep. I'd be the happiest if I could sleep only when I'm bored. But that's for the future, and for someone else, who's most likely a robot.

We are being given the exact reasons we need more admins now. They are now all going offline and don't seem to want to read every post in a thread before making acusations. This leads too misunderstandings that can be solved with a simple I'm sorry.
-- (GamerKid):
so, if y'all are leaving i'm asuming admins all over elten will not be responding to any drama if it were to happen?
-- (ArcticMoon):
Yes, to be honest I'm also planning to do so. It's late here in Hungary as well and since today I got up at like 8 AM, I'm a little bit tired, especially for such things. :)

-- (pajper):
I'll leave this thread for now. It's after midnight in Poland, let's wait for those people who haven't had a chance to comment yet. :)

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As I said, I'm looking at the topic and reading posts for a while yet. On the other hand, I'm sorry, but you are all that scared that we leave now, as if we didn't do so for the nights in the past years.

but your not reading the entire post though. ajan did bring up the unfair bans in his first post.
-- (ArcticMoon):
As I said, I'm looking at the topic and reading posts for a while yet. On the other hand, I'm sorry, but you are all that scared that we leave now, as if we didn't do so for the nights in the past years.

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The unfair bans weren't caused by me. In that matter Nuno is responsible to answer.

it also includes warnings.

If my presence on dozens of forums, mostly of sighted participants, has taught me anything, it is that in this way, unfortunately, by getting involved in drama, you harm yourself. No moderator will ever have the energy to read 100 or 200 posts for clarification.
I'm sorry, but that's the truth. Therefore, the golden rule is not to be provoked and not to feed the trolls.

Since noone from the team, even Nuno or Pajper didn't accuse me for those given warnings, I firmly believe they were valid and were given for obvious reasons.