Όταν θα κοιτάς την θάλασσα Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα βλέπεις εμένα Και τα μάτια σου θα ‘ναι θλιμμένα Όταν θα ξυπνάς στον ύπνο σου Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα σκέφτεσαι εμένα Και θα νιώθεις μεγάλο κενό
It may be different from computer to computer too. I had a problem with Elten not being able to detect some diacritics until unicode was introduced. Maybe Zhengdu doesn't support unicode?
Hmm, that's a good question Hozosch. I don't even know if it has a setting to mess around with these things.
Όταν θα κοιτάς την θάλασσα Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα βλέπεις εμένα Και τα μάτια σου θα ‘ναι θλιμμένα Όταν θα ξυπνάς στον ύπνο σου Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα σκέφτεσαι εμένα Και θα νιώθεις μεγάλο κενό
Yes, I do. Is there a way to use the newer one? Because if yes I'd definitely do that, or something different than espeak...
Όταν θα κοιτάς την θάλασσα Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα βλέπεις εμένα Και τα μάτια σου θα ‘ναι θλιμμένα Όταν θα ξυπνάς στον ύπνο σου Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα σκέφτεσαι εμένα Και θα νιώθεις μεγάλο κενό
Somewhat agreed Thespide. It's as if I would pay for two eyes which sighted people already have by default.
Όταν θα κοιτάς την θάλασσα Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα βλέπεις εμένα Και τα μάτια σου θα ‘ναι θλιμμένα Όταν θα ξυπνάς στον ύπνο σου Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα σκέφτεσαι εμένα Και θα νιώθεις μεγάλο κενό
Zhengdu gives you additional tools besides screenreading. @Arctic, I will install a Hungarian system tomorrow. Now I have the turkish one for testing and I need to finish this matter first, but I will do it tomorrow my time y
- "Intelligence and wisdom is like jam. The less you have, the harder you're trying to spread it arround." - French proverb
Όταν θα κοιτάς την θάλασσα Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα βλέπεις εμένα Και τα μάτια σου θα ‘ναι θλιμμένα Όταν θα ξυπνάς στον ύπνο σου Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα σκέφτεσαι εμένα Και θα νιώθεις μεγάλο κενό
However problematic Zhengdu, I appreciate nuno69's efforts to offer support and do his best. Yes, Zhengdu still needs some time to be even usable for me, because I can't literally launch and use it, but Nuno's help must be appreciated. And NVDA shall remain an, and likely the first, option for me despite all the recently increasing and quite irritating problems with the software and NV Access, due also to its flexibility and the possibility to install more add-ons. As for the paying issue, I am addressing nuno69. If you are saying that Zhengdu has more to offer than just screen reading, in response to the arguments against paying for a screen reader, than you acknowledge that one must not pay for a screen reader, for you are saying that it is because Zhengdu has more to offer that one should still pay for it. And this obliges the developers of Zhengdu to offer a well-working, stable welfare version of the screen reader, with no additional features, for free. Another aspect of the issue is that only paid versions of Zhengdu has such features as OCR, which are part of NVDA and now Windows as well. So yes, you did say that this feature balance would be improved in the next update, so I am just waiting for it.
It needs time to be adapted for the western standards. Believe me, I know what I am doing since I have localized Jieshuo into English and now he supprts over 20 languages.
- "Intelligence and wisdom is like jam. The less you have, the harder you're trying to spread it arround." - French proverb
Yep, German too. I don't get what's wrong with Talk Back though. I know about NVDA, now what about Talk Back? The screen reader comes from the same company as the OS itself, so what's the problem here? I'm just curious, don't want to discredit anyone or anything.
Just my 5 cents. Although Zhengdu might be a good screen reader, I myself wanna test it, I don't understand this hate towards nv access. I disagree that they're thieves, and on my end I see no decline in performance with the latest updates. I'm a windows power user and nvda is the best performing screen reader I've ever seen. Nuno, I'm not provoking you, but this pro china stance where everything coming from them is good and the west is always criticized can be problematic at least. Instead of badmouthing and satanizing nv access, why don't you instead connect them with Zhengdu developers? If you already work with the chinese, connect them with the developers from the west. I'm sure that nv access is willing to collaborate. I'm not their ambassador, but as far as I've seen they will always collaborate if they see that it could potentially improve nvda. I won't go into details why I don't trust chinese, politics is out of this forum.
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