At least you have stopped this absolutely shitty behavior, I mean deleting posts without even letting people summarize their thoughts.
And see, people like it. At least I like it and thank you that you didn;t deleted my posts about alternatives.
Because there were of course offtopic thoughts, but you as a developer asked about the english community and about Elten in general and I wrote my thoughts about Elten along with the english community.
Now the discussion looks like not only offtopic but also like a big piece of spammy shit with short posts.
Looks more like a chat rather than an adequate forum discussion.


-- (pajper):
Evidence has now emerged on the aim of deletion of posts. This is just a reflection for those who think it is pointless.
This thread now has 183 posts. About 3/4 of them are discussions about alternative software, deleting posts, insulting each other. Now here comes someone new who wants to read up on the subject, analyze opinions and take a position in the matter. And what would he see? Rubbish.
I'm not deleting posts because I can presume another drama, but at the moment no one new is likely to join the discussion because the mess doesn't encourage it.

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The main problem isn't with Charlie himself, but with the fact that these people usually bash Elten and such blindy programs if the company they are in requires so. In the meantime, they don't really study or work so they have a lot of free time so of course their mind tells them to get some power in a small corner of the internet. Got it on SBYW? Great, let's try one more. Got it on Elten? No, not yet, so let's push it farther and see what comes out of it.
On the other hand this is already definitely spam. This is a forum, not a chit-chat board.

actually, your description about him beeing out for the power hits it pretty good. This is, btw, what charlie him self called out rory for doing.

Why didn't he apply for being a moderator on audiogames net then? That would also be a great place for power tripping. But there he's one of the few hundred people and noone cares that much, but here he has some kind of a voice.

I think he thinks he got some role in the community due to the petition he made, where he btw said that he had no interest for becoming the admin and now he tries to apply for it. To be honest, i wouldn't support that petition again if i knew he only made it for his own powertrip, how ever this is only speculating and i don't know if it's true. Would make sense though.
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Why didn't he apply for being a moderator on audiogames net then? That would also be a great place for power tripping. But there he's one of the few hundred people and noone cares that much, but here he has some kind of a voice.

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Noone has a role in a community which noone keeps together, sadly.

his plan doesn't seam to work either, look at the poll results. Surprising, ctually.

I find it slightly ironic that you are all bashing Charlie, while also accusing him of being hateful and insulting.
Also in no universe is kiddo an insult. I called my kid brother that for years. Not to insult. Just to address him by not his name.

People don't get paid for administrating or moderating Elten, so I can't agree with the power grabbing theory. For example me, I don't beg for being a mod, but if an admin asks me to help and clearly explains which part I am responsible for with a transparent, concrete set of rules to follow, I'd be happy to help and when something comes up, I will be honest about it. It's a bit cynical to assume that most people wouldn't do the same.

@KL:
"It's not that he uses offensive terminology. He just gives off the demeanor of an arrogant asshole. But hey, who am I to talk.

LOL, let's deconstruct the last few posts.
188:
This is frankly one of the most ridiculous things I've heard this year. In no universe is the term kiddo ever used in an aggressive context. It's literally a term used to describe someone whose either younger than you or displaying jouvinile behaviour, which you're very much doing. Look. I could understand how you thought the last thing was offensive or whatever, but at this point it looks like you're grasping at straws. It's the same as saying childish behaviour, which nobody has batted an eye on here about before. So why is it when I say kiddo behaviour it suddenly becomes offensive? Or aggressive? I even asked Bing which is notorious for attempting to adopt an inoffensive stance and the worst it could say about the statement is that it's a form of disapproval or reprimand. 192 is also false, it's not primarily used to defame. You made that up. As Critter pup came in and said later on it's commonly used to describe people younger than you in an affectionate and playful tone. It only becomes, as you say, defamatory when you're describing the actions of someone for being... Gasp? Childish.
193: Yes. I stand by what I said. I'm not saying that it's good to write hateful posts or that you should do so. I'm simply pointing out that it took people time and energy to make those posts, which is a fact that you can't deny. I also stated that those posts are a part of the forum's history, which is also a fact. If you delete posts evidence will be lost and future onlookers will have absolutely no reference about what happened and the only narrative they'll receive is the narrative the Administration decides to create. Which I think we can all agree is unfair and shouldn't be done. Nothing ironic about what I said.
202-204: Very funny reaches. Let;s start with the audiogames.net claim first. Let me ask you something. Would you try to become a pilot in real life after trying out, and subsequently mastering flight sims? (We're going to handwave your blindness for a second. For the sake of this sinario we'll assume you're fully sighted)
I should like to hope not because obviously flying in a computer game is vastly different from actually piloting a plane. Perhaps you'll buy a model plane or drone and learn to fly that, and maybe after that point you might enter pilot school. Or even come to the realisation that you don't want to be a pilot full time and see dealing with aviation as a hobby.
The same applys here. The stakes are significantly higher on the audiogames.net forum and I don't have any interest in administrating there. It would take up far more of my time and energy than doing so here.
If I were power hungry as you described, wouldn't I have also applied on there? Or why not make my own English community forum like others have suggested? At this point, like Simter it would seem as you're attempting to discredit me based on nothing but conjecture and vibes. I'm still waiting for you to answer my question in the other thread about how my signature is egoism and how I'm not answering adequately by your standards.
207: Your point falls flat on it's face. 27% of the people voted to simply make me the Admin while 32% voted for another poll. Now you'll note that 27% of 111 is about 30, while 32% is 35 there abouts. You'll also note that for the first few weeks or so the option to make me the admin outright was leading. It only started trailing when in the other thread I, with my own fingers said, I prefered that another vote be run. Yep. You can go look at the message where I said it yourself.
210: Not much to deconstruct there. I'd like you to tell me why you think that way.
And in closing, I love how you folks accuse me of being hateful and offensive when the 2 of you, (Simter and Arctic) have been going on a smear campaign against me for the last month or so. IF you read through these threads I've never said anything against either of them personally, however if you look through this thread and the other one you'll find a myriad of attacks against me personally. Funny how that works.
But you know what? There is a famous historic quote, and it's very much apt here both regarding your attacks against me and attacks on elten:
"Let the jack asses bray. Perhaps they will tire themselves".

You simply appear like you possess a considerable sense of self-esteem. There is no inherent issue with that attribute though. Nevertheless, there are instances where your writing is perceived as outright insensitive, a trait I, too, occasionally exhibit."

Fact: While charlie barely would avoid any point and tries to answer/explain everything that people bash/ask him for, noone else in here has really been able to do so. Particularely karmien.

https://fortune.com/2014/09/29/the-word-every-boss-should-ban/

Imagine trying to post a link to further your agenda however at best the article is mostly unrelating to the discussion at hand, and at worst when it is speaking to a relevant point of view it only shoots you in the foot further.
But cudos to you for responding to my almost 800 word response with an Op Ed from 10 years ago that's not relating to the discussion at hand.

Where the hell am i evading points? Give me a thing and i will directly respond to it. And also @charlie, wow just turning us critisicing you into a smear campaign against you is, really adult behavior.
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Fact: While charlie barely would avoid any point and tries to answer/explain everything that people bash/ask him for, noone else in here has really been able to do so. Particularely karmien.

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and actually, the link is about the word kiddo, so is relevant to the discussion. Hmm, maybe charlie is hoping that people just believe him and do not click the link to verify? Now who is the one with the smear campaign here?

Did you read the article?

Yes

So how does that article disprove any of what I said?