Computers and Technology

Screen Readers

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#341 Edytowano

Alright, I think what he says is that even open-source software can become totally abandoned and discontinued due to lack of an organized and effectively working development team, which NVDA really requires for the updates to continue in all the languages it supports. And the updates becoming more and more useless with each new release, is something that I have mentioned several times already, so I do agree on that matter.
I had read it by the way.
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I've got one question though about what's been said in post 324. How can you be so sure that open source won't help? Also, Enes, I'm interested about what you have to say to post 324. I'm under the impression that you didn't read it yet.

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Enes

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#342

More hands doesn't mean better quality. EVery has theior code writing habits, everyone makes their specific mistakes, ETC.
If I work on Zhengdu, the master developer knows what stupid mistakes I make and he can look specifically for tyhem when reviewing my code.
- "Intelligence and wisdom is like jam. The less you have, the harder you're trying to spread it arround." - French proverb

#343

Well that's true. Just look at Elten!

#344

Yes. Open source is very wrong IMHO. I hate this movement, not only in screen reading. But that's a different topic.
- "Intelligence and wisdom is like jam. The less you have, the harder you're trying to spread it arround." - French proverb

#345 Edytowano

So I downloaded ZDSR and it has a horrible bug which makes it almost unusable for a hungarian. I set espeak as the default voice, which speaks in hungarian but due to ZDSR it ignores every, single, letter with acute. In hungarian there are a lot of letters containing acute and if a screen reader ignores them, we can still understand what it wants but it's not comfortable at all.

Όταν θα κοιτάς την θάλασσα
Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα βλέπεις εμένα
Και τα μάτια σου θα ‘ναι θλιμμένα
Όταν θα ξυπνάς στον ύπνο σου
Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα σκέφτεσαι εμένα
Και θα νιώθεις μεγάλο κενό

#346

What do you mean? Can I have the example text?
- "Intelligence and wisdom is like jam. The less you have, the harder you're trying to spread it arround." - French proverb

#347

Everything, it doesn't even need examples, you recognise it anywhere. It ignores stuff like á, é, í, ó, ő, ú, ü, ű.

Όταν θα κοιτάς την θάλασσα
Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα βλέπεις εμένα
Και τα μάτια σου θα ‘ναι θλιμμένα
Όταν θα ξυπνάς στον ύπνο σου
Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα σκέφτεσαι εμένα
Και θα νιώθεις μεγάλο κενό

#348

So it doesn't read them at all, right?
- "Intelligence and wisdom is like jam. The less you have, the harder you're trying to spread it arround." - French proverb

#349

Yeah, every time I try to read with the hungarian espeak it doesn't read them at all. It behaves as if there was a period there so the sentence ended, but in fact it's a letter with an acute.

Όταν θα κοιτάς την θάλασσα
Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα βλέπεις εμένα
Και τα μάτια σου θα ‘ναι θλιμμένα
Όταν θα ξυπνάς στον ύπνο σου
Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα σκέφτεσαι εμένα
Και θα νιώθεις μεγάλο κενό

#350

Ok, sorry to get into the way here, and I also don't want to discredit you, but what makes you to be so harsh about NVAccess? If you think someone's guilty, you have to prove his or her guilt, and all the arguments I heard don't really convince me. Maybe I'm also just ignorant or something but I just don't get it.

#351

I use Espeak and I have the letters read. Can you write me some words containing these characters?
- "Intelligence and wisdom is like jam. The less you have, the harder you're trying to spread it arround." - French proverb

#352

@350 Just the simple fact that they're presenting themselves as a non-profit organization, meaning that they get no profit from they work. Oh they get huge milions
- "Intelligence and wisdom is like jam. The less you have, the harder you're trying to spread it arround." - French proverb

#353 Edytowano

From Mozilla and Microsoft, right? And so they ask you to donate even if they don't really need it because those tech giants are supporting them. Is that what you're trying to say?

#354

Yes
- "Intelligence and wisdom is like jam. The less you have, the harder you're trying to spread it arround." - French proverb

#355

ok...
Definitely looking forward to the new welfare edition. How much was youth pro again? And is it a one time pay, or yearly? Not sure about that now.

#356

26 USd a year
- "Intelligence and wisdom is like jam. The less you have, the harder you're trying to spread it arround." - French proverb

#357

Ah ok so I remembered it correctly.

#358

The words I heard for the first time when I recognised this thing were: üzenet küldése, üzenet írása, várakozás. BTW which mean send a message, write a message and waiting.

Όταν θα κοιτάς την θάλασσα
Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα βλέπεις εμένα
Και τα μάτια σου θα ‘ναι θλιμμένα
Όταν θα ξυπνάς στον ύπνο σου
Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα σκέφτεσαι εμένα
Και θα νιώθεις μεγάλο κενό

#359

Only the hungarian voice does this anyway, so if you try with english, it'll work I guess.

Όταν θα κοιτάς την θάλασσα
Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα βλέπεις εμένα
Και τα μάτια σου θα ‘ναι θλιμμένα
Όταν θα ξυπνάς στον ύπνο σου
Χωρίς να το θέλεις, θα σκέφτεσαι εμένα
Και θα νιώθεις μεγάλο κενό

#360

Where did you read? What software?
- "Intelligence and wisdom is like jam. The less you have, the harder you're trying to spread it arround." - French proverb