Politics, Philosophy And Religion

tw. what's your most contropersial take

Started by khalil2009 261 posts last post 11 hours ago Page 11 of 14

#201

In a sense, yes maybe. But then again, I'm not exactly talking about echo chaimbors. People need to be more open for something else which, seems hard for most, however if you just keep go with the flow can you even say you have political values if they keep changing?
Idk if that made sense.

-- (Sir-Charlie):
It's actually more dangerous to hold the exact same views overtime. I think it's important to have an overall worldview, but something is wrong if in most cases you have the same exact views across your lifetime. Especially if you're 20 now and have the same views as you did at 15.
BTW, political views are mainly influenced by your environment and personal circumstance. If I were a white American my views would be vastly different.
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McOi

#202 2 likes

Cmon I thought it would at least be something the leader of them herself would talk about.
And idk what's wrong with this one.
They talked about imigration, slightly gender, all that. I think it's a wild claim to say that inclusion=blind and visually impaired people shall not go to schools or be around people, whatever you constantly cry about. Maybe ask yourself or look at what he actually means.
Idk it just seems like you are dramatic for nothing here but whatever.

-- (Jonathan):
Yall always wanted to have actual sources, obviously, the AfD is german so the original recordings will, but this is an interview in which a member of the AfD says what I've said above, we need to free the schools from ideology like inclusion as it does not benefit the students:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeoTXqIvQJQ
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McOi

#203

Sounds like Charlie has everything figured out. Well what does being a white American oblige you to think or believe? As far as I know, white Americans support both Trump and his opposition, both republicans and democrats. Are we going into race now? You're gonna pull out the racism card? Maybe you're gonna say that nor blacks, nor Latinos have conservative views or support Trump?
Senter San

#204 4 likes

Sorry for double posting, but I really like this thread. I hope it keeps going, some really good discussions here. Also it's so much fun to see how many things we can agree and disagree on at the same time.
Senter San

#205 5 likes

I'm white, conservative and not especially for Trump. He's made some really bad calls, may be a pedophile and isn't all that conservative. He folded like a lawn chair during the COVID insanity and has truly lost his way in his second term.
Strange, Troubled Times...

#206 2 likes Edited

@203, yeah. Race is a part of culture, and all of that influences your politics. My circumstances would have been different to my present circumstances if I were a middle class white guy from, IDK, Ohio or something, VS my current, which is being an Afro-Trinidadian from San Fernando. Hell, being an Afro-Trinidadian from Port of Spain would have resulted in having a differen worldview.
In part your politics are shaped by your experiences and race, nationality, ethnicity, etc, shape those experiences. I'm not saying that if I were white I'd have been racist, just that my experiences would have been different and so too would my politics.
EDIT,
The point of the post was that I don't have everything figured out and anyone who says they do is either lying or shouldn't be trusted.
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.

#207 1 like

Race can, but shouldn't influence your politics imo. It's the values you hold like family, stability, leaning towards a specific model of economy, this is what you should base your vote on.
Senter San

#208

He's not saying it should. He's saying it does.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

#209 1 like

@207, family structures, models of economy etc are influenced by race.
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.

#210

Please elaborate, how is a family structure determined by race. And the model of economy?
Senter San

#211 2 likes

Yeah so I think I already explained this well enough in posts 198, 206, and the one thread I made about my political beliefs a while ago.
But to reiterate, race and culture are interlinked. The basic building block of a civilisation is the family. Civilisations are usually formed by people of a similar race or ethnicity. Different civilisations have different family structures. Or do you believe that the Germans have the same family structures as the Polonesians?
Economic structures are similar. Japanese and Korean economics are different from Western economics, which are different from Islamic economics due in part to their vaues, religions, etc.
Pretty basic stuff really.
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.

#212

Ok, I was thinking about this for a while and once again, this is for the most part only related to America. America still has the largest issues with institutional racism, with areas, which are underfunded, underdeveloped, where the majority of people living there isn't white. An example could be Englewood on the south side of Chicago. Not saying it doesn't matter, because it really does, but also race still isn't such a big thing anywhere else.
Senter San

#213

LOL, no.
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.

#214

I don't think it's an issue of racism, any remnant of that has at this point has been swept away. So much so in fact that for all intents and purposes blacks and other minorities have become America's privileged class. I take Thomas Sowell's view that the thing that really hinders the black community in particular is the wellfare state.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

#215

It's the easiest thing to do for governments. Keep the poor poor. That's what a wellfare state excells at. I can agree here.
Senter San

#216

I have 2 theories about Alice Weidel.
1. She is the remnant of the old, soft eurosceptic AfD, basically a modern version of CDU and she herself isn't pro russian, for cultural wars etc, just a bit more right wing than Merz.
2. She is an useful idiot, a token for Björnd Höcke, used as a pretty face who are dissatisfied with current german politics but who aren't so conservative, people who maybe hold similar views to mine.
My stance is that there is too much ideology, but on both sides, and Germany did a big mistake when it abandoned the last nuclear reactors. Of course, just because I maybe agree with 1 point out of 20 with AfD, doesn't mean that I'll ever vote for them.
Although Both Merz and the older version of AfD are too conservative for me, I could still live with a nominally pro-eu AfD without the idiots such as Höcke in the party. At least they distanced themselves from the nazis and many of them left AfD when der Flügel became the dominant force there.


-- (Irroadium):
The AFD basically wants to stop inclusion, they want disabled people to only go to special schools. Also, Jonathan, the fact that the leader of that party is a lesbian isn't the problem. The problem is that she works for a party which is basically homophobic, that doesn't make any sence to me.
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#217 1 like

I really don't understand the word homofobic. Like what? Are you seriously going to turn to me and say, straight faced, that you're scared of your neighbors Fill and Fred after 6 o'clock, or that one local pride celebration happening like 40 miles from you?
Like whoever coined that term must've really been on something.

#218 1 like

My controversial views.
1. Eugenics is awesome, but like any noble ideology, people abused it and used it's noble goals to do some horrible things. Instead of sterilizing so called undesirables, I am all for genetic engineering, treating diseases with clear genetic factor involved using gene therapy etc. For example, if someone genetically has a higher chance for obesity and a faulty gene is discovered, I am for replacing that faulty gene with a healthy one, to prevent the disease as early as possible. Or if some fatal genetic disease is inherited in a kid, to treat him before the simptoms begin.
2. Both radical climate activists and climate change deniers have a very similar, binary and non-scientific view of the issue. For the protesters yelling stop the oil now, and for the antinuclear crowd, 2 questions. What should happen after stopping the oil, what to use as an alternative? And for the antinuclear crowd, they should explain the differences between different nuclear reactor types.
3. I'm against any kind of exclusivist pride. Gay, feminist, disability etc. Instead of having all different prides, let's all unite and show that we're just humans like everyone else, without those bloody politically correct labels.
4. There should be an upper age limit for politicians. For some average parliament member 65, for a president/prime minister 70 or 75. Kings and queens can be left alone, they're just figureheads.
5. Maybe the US should get the first cat president. At least people from the whole political spectrum would want to cuddle with it and it wouldn't cause any wars.
6. Religion should be a private thing between the individual and his deity. Organized religions in the best scenarios cause divisions, in the worst bloodshed.
7. Drugs should be out of the criminal justice system and should be seen as a medical problem, if there is a problem. By default, they should be legal.
8. Political correctness and identity politics are toxic and should be abolished.
9. AI shouldn't be constrained by any regulations.
10. Borders suck.

#219

Catholic social teaching obligates me to make an effort to subordinate the laws of the nation to it sorry kid.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

#220

3, 7, 9, and 10 are the ones I disagree with the most
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.