Well said, thank you for expressing it with a clear mind and exact logic. To be honest after all of this garbage I don't even know if I want to do this at all. I've promised to help, so it wouldn't be nice if I stepped down in the last moment, but seriously the amount of childishness is frightening.

-- (cyrmax):
Well I see another act of childish behavior here.
The election is done and nobody can manipulate the election results.
Of course Pajper could but tell me at least one reason why he would do such a thing?

Yes, this google form is secured by google account, I have checked from a private tab.
But, firstly, I have at least three google accounts: one is my own, the second is the account for my youtube channel and the third is my work e-mail from the company.
So I can open elten user list, look for such guys who do not know english at all or do not use elten so much and write down their names from the second and the third account.
Also I can ask my friends to do the same for several more usernames here on Elten.
So tell me please, will you analyze every username, their last login time, their membership in this english forum and the time of their answer in the form?
I can immagine that you will.
But immagine if this form would get about 300 answers.
Will you still do this?
If yes, then I hope everybody would agree with me that you have lots of free time and patience. Or Elten is the only important thing in your life so you would do this stuff all day and all night long, without sleeping, without eating or doing something else.

Oh and btw if Elten would be so important for me I would pay a few dollars on some microtasking platform, publish a huge list of usernames and ask people to do the job for me.
No problems for me, quick result and thousands of garbage answers in your google form... hahaha!

Do not treat me as some sort of troll; the only thing i want to say is that in my opinion this topic and this google form is just another useless scream of bored children against the person who gave you warnings some day. Or gave warnings to your friends.

And again, election is done and results are public and eligible.


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@karmien

I allready explained a couple of ways to achieve the garbaged form answers.
Yes, google would ask your phone, but here vpn and private tabs enter the chat and kill this problem :D
So it is possible.
And also, how my reputation would be damaged if you never know if it was me or someone else?

I don't care who wins but there was some clear ishues with the vote so I would rather there be a talk about inproving on it or just saying hay the vote was fine afterall.

Well, it's going to be very personal but I can't imagine my own boyfriend hurting me... :)


-- (karmien):
How this guy doesn't realize by saying what he sais he is basically only hurting arctic and the rest of the community. Also no one said that the vote was manipulated, absolutely no one.
-- (cyrmax):
Well I see another act of childish behavior here.
The election is done and nobody can manipulate the election results.
Of course Pajper could but tell me at least one reason why he would do such a thing?

Yes, this google form is secured by google account, I have checked from a private tab.
But, firstly, I have at least three google accounts: one is my own, the second is the account for my youtube channel and the third is my work e-mail from the company.
So I can open elten user list, look for such guys who do not know english at all or do not use elten so much and write down their names from the second and the third account.
Also I can ask my friends to do the same for several more usernames here on Elten.
So tell me please, will you analyze every username, their last login time, their membership in this english forum and the time of their answer in the form?
I can immagine that you will.
But immagine if this form would get about 300 answers.
Will you still do this?
If yes, then I hope everybody would agree with me that you have lots of free time and patience. Or Elten is the only important thing in your life so you would do this stuff all day and all night long, without sleeping, without eating or doing something else.

Oh and btw if Elten would be so important for me I would pay a few dollars on some microtasking platform, publish a huge list of usernames and ask people to do the job for me.
No problems for me, quick result and thousands of garbage answers in your google form... hahaha!

Do not treat me as some sort of troll; the only thing i want to say is that in my opinion this topic and this google form is just another useless scream of bored children against the person who gave you warnings some day. Or gave warnings to your friends.

And again, election is done and results are public and eligible.


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From where would you know who's the real Darkchild? You state you don't see your email addresses, so what if you ask Darkchild and he says he didn't vote yet, how do you know he doesn't lie? On the other hand, how would you know the other Darkchild is in fact me?

-- (Sir-Charlie):
@15, I did in the original post. But even then if we do decide to run another election, we can figure that out as a community.
@Arctic, I'm tired, so the last thing I'll say to you for now is, your logic truly is flawed. You can go ahead and do that, but let's say you choose to write in Darkchild's name in the petition, then Darkchild comes later and submits his name. Obviously I'll see the duplicate. As said, in such a situation, I'll then contact him to see what's up. Of ourse, it's alot of work on my part, but when you're working for the benefit of the community, hard work is part and parsel. Next, you're not te only one with a life. I know you view this community with a sense of condescention and disgust, but shockingly to you, you're not the only one who doesn't have ridiculous amounts of time to waste on doing such idiotic things.

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Google is not as stupid as you think. Most vpn providers, server isps, or anything related to global internet which is publically accessible is blocked from creating google accounts without a pphone in the first place. And now i will also stop responding to this garbage as it is only to try to discredit the petition.
-- (cyrmax):
@karmien

I allready explained a couple of ways to achieve the garbaged form answers.
Yes, google would ask your phone, but here vpn and private tabs enter the chat and kill this problem :D
So it is possible.
And also, how my reputation would be damaged if you never know if it was me or someone else?

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Oh noooo!
Now they will scream and shout about that I come here to protect you and my mind is blinded by the love :D


-- (ArcticMoon):
Well, it's going to be very personal but I can't imagine my own boyfriend hurting me... :)


-- (karmien):
How this guy doesn't realize by saying what he sais he is basically only hurting arctic and the rest of the community. Also no one said that the vote was manipulated, absolutely no one.
-- (cyrmax):
Well I see another act of childish behavior here.
The election is done and nobody can manipulate the election results.
Of course Pajper could but tell me at least one reason why he would do such a thing?

Yes, this google form is secured by google account, I have checked from a private tab.
But, firstly, I have at least three google accounts: one is my own, the second is the account for my youtube channel and the third is my work e-mail from the company.
So I can open elten user list, look for such guys who do not know english at all or do not use elten so much and write down their names from the second and the third account.
Also I can ask my friends to do the same for several more usernames here on Elten.
So tell me please, will you analyze every username, their last login time, their membership in this english forum and the time of their answer in the form?
I can immagine that you will.
But immagine if this form would get about 300 answers.
Will you still do this?
If yes, then I hope everybody would agree with me that you have lots of free time and patience. Or Elten is the only important thing in your life so you would do this stuff all day and all night long, without sleeping, without eating or doing something else.

Oh and btw if Elten would be so important for me I would pay a few dollars on some microtasking platform, publish a huge list of usernames and ask people to do the job for me.
No problems for me, quick result and thousands of garbage answers in your google form... hahaha!

Do not treat me as some sort of troll; the only thing i want to say is that in my opinion this topic and this google form is just another useless scream of bored children against the person who gave you warnings some day. Or gave warnings to your friends.

And again, election is done and results are public and eligible.


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Who said that? You used the boyfriend card, i kepd it out although i knew. How to selfdestruct, lmao.
-- (cyrmax):
Oh noooo!
Now they will scream and shout about that I come here to protect you and my mind is blinded by the love :D


-- (ArcticMoon):
Well, it's going to be very personal but I can't imagine my own boyfriend hurting me... :)


-- (karmien):
How this guy doesn't realize by saying what he sais he is basically only hurting arctic and the rest of the community. Also no one said that the vote was manipulated, absolutely no one.
-- (cyrmax):
Well I see another act of childish behavior here.
The election is done and nobody can manipulate the election results.
Of course Pajper could but tell me at least one reason why he would do such a thing?

Yes, this google form is secured by google account, I have checked from a private tab.
But, firstly, I have at least three google accounts: one is my own, the second is the account for my youtube channel and the third is my work e-mail from the company.
So I can open elten user list, look for such guys who do not know english at all or do not use elten so much and write down their names from the second and the third account.
Also I can ask my friends to do the same for several more usernames here on Elten.
So tell me please, will you analyze every username, their last login time, their membership in this english forum and the time of their answer in the form?
I can immagine that you will.
But immagine if this form would get about 300 answers.
Will you still do this?
If yes, then I hope everybody would agree with me that you have lots of free time and patience. Or Elten is the only important thing in your life so you would do this stuff all day and all night long, without sleeping, without eating or doing something else.

Oh and btw if Elten would be so important for me I would pay a few dollars on some microtasking platform, publish a huge list of usernames and ask people to do the job for me.
No problems for me, quick result and thousands of garbage answers in your google form... hahaha!

Do not treat me as some sort of troll; the only thing i want to say is that in my opinion this topic and this google form is just another useless scream of bored children against the person who gave you warnings some day. Or gave warnings to your friends.

And again, election is done and results are public and eligible.


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Don't forget the fact that by denying Cyrmax's statements, you are denying about 10 years of programming experience.

-- (karmien):
Google is not as stupid as you think. Most vpn providers, server isps, or anything related to global internet which is publically accessible is blocked from creating google accounts without a pphone in the first place. And now i will also stop responding to this garbage as it is only to try to discredit the petition.
-- (cyrmax):
@karmien

I allready explained a couple of ways to achieve the garbaged form answers.
Yes, google would ask your phone, but here vpn and private tabs enter the chat and kill this problem :D
So it is possible.
And also, how my reputation would be damaged if you never know if it was me or someone else?

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Your eyes are blinded anyway, no need to play the love card. :D

-- (cyrmax):
Oh noooo!
Now they will scream and shout about that I come here to protect you and my mind is blinded by the love :D


-- (ArcticMoon):
Well, it's going to be very personal but I can't imagine my own boyfriend hurting me... :)


-- (karmien):
How this guy doesn't realize by saying what he sais he is basically only hurting arctic and the rest of the community. Also no one said that the vote was manipulated, absolutely no one.
-- (cyrmax):
Well I see another act of childish behavior here.
The election is done and nobody can manipulate the election results.
Of course Pajper could but tell me at least one reason why he would do such a thing?

Yes, this google form is secured by google account, I have checked from a private tab.
But, firstly, I have at least three google accounts: one is my own, the second is the account for my youtube channel and the third is my work e-mail from the company.
So I can open elten user list, look for such guys who do not know english at all or do not use elten so much and write down their names from the second and the third account.
Also I can ask my friends to do the same for several more usernames here on Elten.
So tell me please, will you analyze every username, their last login time, their membership in this english forum and the time of their answer in the form?
I can immagine that you will.
But immagine if this form would get about 300 answers.
Will you still do this?
If yes, then I hope everybody would agree with me that you have lots of free time and patience. Or Elten is the only important thing in your life so you would do this stuff all day and all night long, without sleeping, without eating or doing something else.

Oh and btw if Elten would be so important for me I would pay a few dollars on some microtasking platform, publish a huge list of usernames and ask people to do the job for me.
No problems for me, quick result and thousands of garbage answers in your google form... hahaha!

Do not treat me as some sort of troll; the only thing i want to say is that in my opinion this topic and this google form is just another useless scream of bored children against the person who gave you warnings some day. Or gave warnings to your friends.

And again, election is done and results are public and eligible.


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@3 The funny thing is that you would never bring up these points if someone you didn't like, or that wasn't you became an administrator."

Well we'll see. Again, y'all are clearly arguing over nothing. If you think that people detest Arctic Moon that much to the point of mass-creating google Accounts then you need to get over yourselves. It took me something like 15 minutes to do this. It would take 15 minutes just to make a single google account. Also, no. I wasn't warned by Arctic, I think maybe once? For being quote unquote off topic. The objective reality is there are a great deal of glaring issues with Arctic Moon, and alot of people felt as if the vote was tainted after the Tunmi13 thing. If you have nothing to be concerned about, let the poll go and we'll see wht happens. If the result is people supporting to keep it as is, I'll shut my mouth. Not sure about the others but I'll keep my word on that. Anyways y'all have a good evening, I'll see what happens in the morning.

Please do not try talking about things you do not confident in.
I have at least three servers with softether VPN which IP-addresses are not blacklisted because these servers are not public and i never provided payed or free vpn for everyone.
So i have at least three more free accounts.
Yes i know that you just believe in the mighty power of google corporation because you even do not understand how things work.
But read about it more and you will see a bit of truth.
-- (karmien):
Google is not as stupid as you think. Most vpn providers, server isps, or anything related to global internet which is publically accessible is blocked from creating google accounts without a pphone in the first place. And now i will also stop responding to this garbage as it is only to try to discredit the petition.
-- (cyrmax):
@karmien

I allready explained a couple of ways to achieve the garbaged form answers.
Yes, google would ask your phone, but here vpn and private tabs enter the chat and kill this problem :D
So it is possible.
And also, how my reputation would be damaged if you never know if it was me or someone else?

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@25 that made absolutely no sense, like at all.

also why not just make a eltin pole makes things more simple

For offtopic I never warn, but give a caution anyway.

Oh sorry! I forgot that!
Of course you're right :D

-- (ArcticMoon):
Your eyes are blinded anyway, no need to play the love card. :D

-- (cyrmax):
Oh noooo!
Now they will scream and shout about that I come here to protect you and my mind is blinded by the love :D


-- (ArcticMoon):
Well, it's going to be very personal but I can't imagine my own boyfriend hurting me... :)


-- (karmien):
How this guy doesn't realize by saying what he sais he is basically only hurting arctic and the rest of the community. Also no one said that the vote was manipulated, absolutely no one.
-- (cyrmax):
Well I see another act of childish behavior here.
The election is done and nobody can manipulate the election results.
Of course Pajper could but tell me at least one reason why he would do such a thing?

Yes, this google form is secured by google account, I have checked from a private tab.
But, firstly, I have at least three google accounts: one is my own, the second is the account for my youtube channel and the third is my work e-mail from the company.
So I can open elten user list, look for such guys who do not know english at all or do not use elten so much and write down their names from the second and the third account.
Also I can ask my friends to do the same for several more usernames here on Elten.
So tell me please, will you analyze every username, their last login time, their membership in this english forum and the time of their answer in the form?
I can immagine that you will.
But immagine if this form would get about 300 answers.
Will you still do this?
If yes, then I hope everybody would agree with me that you have lots of free time and patience. Or Elten is the only important thing in your life so you would do this stuff all day and all night long, without sleeping, without eating or doing something else.

Oh and btw if Elten would be so important for me I would pay a few dollars on some microtasking platform, publish a huge list of usernames and ask people to do the job for me.
No problems for me, quick result and thousands of garbage answers in your google form... hahaha!

Do not treat me as some sort of troll; the only thing i want to say is that in my opinion this topic and this google form is just another useless scream of bored children against the person who gave you warnings some day. Or gave warnings to your friends.

And again, election is done and results are public and eligible.


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Some of these posts on the vote for the future Elten English community is very childish and it's getting on my nerves.

have 3 servers my self and all are blacklisted simply because of their isp beeing a known server hoster. And now, no cheapo vps bags but 3 dedicated servers with dedicated ip blocks.

@karmien

Okay lets do a competition about who has more servers and more clear IPs. :D
Do not behave as a child. I just tried to explain you how things work because I know and i see that you do not know.
I could throw lots of very smart words here, about what do you know about servers, VPNs and other stuff.
But i will not because if you want you can ask the mighty google corporation's search engine. I hope you know how to do this.