We're halfway to my goal. Thank you all who voted in the poll, including those who voted against. Contrary to what some would have you believe, I genuinely believe this is an important step on a path to healing and recovery for the community. The last few months were rough, and the last thing we need is a feeling that we were cheated and lied to before we even cross the starting line. So keep the votes coming in.
Yes: 14
No: 4

The poll isn't official though, and I'm still convinced by Cyrmax's facts that it can be manipulated. On the other hand, now only those people are going to vote, who would say yes anyway. An adequate person doesn't even touch the poll with serious intentions, unfortunately.

Anything is possible Arctic, but not everything is probable. The things he said are possible, but hilariously improbable. So far none of the doom and gloom he espoused has come to pass.If the resul
I mean if you choose to refuse the results of the poll if it goes against your favour it just says more about you than us. The petition isn't for you to be ousted. The petition is for the vote to be rerun. If the community wants you, they'll just vote for you again. It's really not that hard a concept to grasp

No, to be honest I would be the happiest if the results won't be in my favor. But I'm not sure Pajper looks at such childish stuff anyway.

And yes you are right, it's tiring but easy for the community to express their feelings yet again. It'll be hilarious to watch almost the same results. :D

Can you define childish? Because I don't quite think our definitions are the same.

She's been spending way too much time under the moon and not as much time under the sun. Take that as you wish.

I don't understand your approach here, at all. Instead of throwing around the word childish at everything that criticises you why not look at the facts? Let's talk through the facts together

Fact: I made it stupidly easy for this petition to fail. Why? Not because I want no to come out on top, but because I believe in being fair to anyone, and I believe in this being a community initiative. Not an initiative of a few.
*I stretched the vote out by over a week giving people ample time to vote
*I required an absolute majority for me to consider this petition a success
*I required as many people who voted you in to vote yes showing that a significant segment of the community want a redo.
Fact: Instead of discrediting the petition, you could have thrown your support behind it.
*It would show us that you actually value the opinions and feelings of the community.
*You could have actively gotten people to vote no as well if you believed in that.
*Throwing your weight behind it could have helped in reducing some drama and again, reduce devision. But instead of that you came in guns blazing in your typical contemptuous style.
Fact: The petition isn't about getting you ousted as administrator. It's simply a petition to get you and Pajper to consider rerunning the election. Again, if the community supported you as an administrator, they'd simply vote you back in. If not, they'd vote you out. If you're voted out a week after being voted in then we should really consider why that is. Ultimately, in a community like this one, if a large segment of the community has a problem then we can't hope to move forward and build back better. I said in the other topic that a fish rots at the head first. In this case if the head is constantly bitter and decrying the community, what do you think is left for everyone else? They'll only see the forums with little respect or regard, and many already are.
But I don't understand. Within the past few days how many times have you said that you didn't want to be administrator here? 4 times? 5 times? Why are you fighting so hard to cling onto power? Just give it a chance and see what happens.
You probably think that I think Marc or Simter or one of them should be the administrator, but that's not even the case really. I'm not sure about Simter and same for Marc. I simply think people should be free to choose to either vote for someone else or flat out choose not to.
Still waiting for a definition of childish btw. Because the only childish posts and actions I've been seeing isi from you and your friend.

I don't want to agitate people to vote no because I'm not competing with any of the other candidates. It's not a competition, it's not a must for me to help the forum in development. But if people want it that way, I am going to do so because I'd have ideas. But if they refuse, so be it, I won't be hurt, I'll just have more time for things I had before.

But also if we talk about your dead mother or any other struggels. It was never a good idea to just be harsh or mistreeding the comunity for that. You could simply go like hey, I need a break. Did that with a dude in my online games corner group for a while and I'm good. Exactly for the reason that I needed a break and I wouldn't contribute to something senseful at that time.
Also, filled out that poll now, wonder if someone would just abuse my username though now we're at it. But now that I confirmed that doblications should be able to be noticed easily.

A very christian mentality to simply mention my "dead mother" against me when you feel your arguments are over. Congratulations. We have reached a new level of adequacy.

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But also if we talk about your dead mother or any other struggels. It was never a good idea to just be harsh or mistreeding the comunity for that. You could simply go like hey, I need a break. Did that with a dude in my online games corner group for a while and I'm good. Exactly for the reason that I needed a break and I wouldn't contribute to something senseful at that time.
Also, filled out that poll now, wonder if someone would just abuse my username though now we're at it. But now that I confirmed that doblications should be able to be noticed easily.

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@71, you'relike an AI trained to search for buzz words without reading context. He didn't "use" your passed mother as ammunition against you. He's simply sighting your constant references to her and saying it's not a valid excuse. If you're going to attack him for that and call it low, then I dare say you're lower for constantly using your mother's passing whenever you're called out for negative actions.
I encourage you to read back through this topic. Genuinely read. Open your mind and clear as much bias as you can. Look at who are throwing the insults. Look at who is being the most childish and come back.

Wow. Just wow on that point. I am to tired to write a huge post with any helpful comments in there, but I wanna say that arctic moons actions are, really, to not call it stupid. Sorry but that, is just redicolous on that point. Please, please just step back if you even get the admin. I wonder why you aren't allready? But again, just, w, o, w.
If everyone would want you, why aren't they just voting you back in the poll. The only thing you show here in mass is that you can't take any peace of critism and think you are, idk what, but hey, :-) changed to an actual :-D Thats pretty cool.
Chringe!
I don't know, but don't you think you kinda insult "your", moderated community, for now over idfk what how long years with your broken influence, on that point, by trying to say this poll here has no value. Because it probably still has more than the old one, and that for those who wanted to change their votes and hopefully did after you beeing absolutely, how you are again.
Can't find a respectful word anymore. ; :-)

No problem, just wait, I will create a third poll which will not be manipulated for sure and I will win it :D

Constant mentions? I've explained what's going on only once, in hopes that some of you maybe get the point.

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@71, you'relike an AI trained to search for buzz words without reading context. He didn't "use" your passed mother as ammunition against you. He's simply sighting your constant references to her and saying it's not a valid excuse. If you're going to attack him for that and call it low, then I dare say you're lower for constantly using your mother's passing whenever you're called out for negative actions.
I encourage you to read back through this topic. Genuinely read. Open your mind and clear as much bias as you can. Look at who are throwing the insults. Look at who is being the most childish and come back.

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Yeah good idea anyway :D

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No problem, just wait, I will create a third poll which will not be manipulated for sure and I will win it :D

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lol, also to mention that it would be pretty easy to manipulate the poll of your trusted pajper, and that doesn't means I don't trust him myself, or anything, I just say that I of course have another german account who easily could have taken part in this all if I could have founded my password, wich I forgot and also won't search because I am not doing this stuff anymore. But I tell you, no thing, is completely secure.

of course, but it's more trustforthy than any random from the internet who will create a second poll. And For me this random guy is the creator of the second poll, but I'm also a random guy for 90% of english community, Pajper not.
And If Pajper want Arcticmoon to be an adnmin, I guess, he would just give her this function that's all.

So, for most of the arctic moon supporters, the poll is over for you, or? So where is your administrator? I wonder. Like, it would have took 2 seconds to grand the possition and everything is done. Why making a big process out of, likely everything?

okay we all understood it now with the :-)
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Wow. Just wow on that point. I am to tired to write a huge post with any helpful comments in there, but I wanna say that arctic moons actions are, really, to not call it stupid. Sorry but that, is just redicolous on that point. Please, please just step back if you even get the admin. I wonder why you aren't allready? But again, just, w, o, w.
If everyone would want you, why aren't they just voting you back in the poll. The only thing you show here in mass is that you can't take any peace of critism and think you are, idk what, but hey, :-) changed to an actual :-D Thats pretty cool.
Chringe!
I don't know, but don't you think you kinda insult "your", moderated community, for now over idfk what how long years with your broken influence, on that point, by trying to say this poll here has no value. Because it probably still has more than the old one, and that for those who wanted to change their votes and hopefully did after you beeing absolutely, how you are again.
Can't find a respectful word anymore. ; :-)

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