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#21 ArcticMoon

Let me quote from your post.
"Perhaps the Russians murdered the sister, mother, daughter of the creator of this library."

Perhaps. Yes, perhaps. It means it's not exact information, but if enough people in the news say so, it must be true.
I personally don't support the actions of Russia either. But you know, there's a point where let's stop being eaten by propaganda.



2023-07-21 13:04

#22 cyrmax

ROFL ROFL ROFL! @pajper had made changes. RRRRRRRRooooooofl!
Just removed the word "fuck" from the alert and requirements. So we can think that generaly @pajper supports the situation and goes only against swear words in the interface.
A new restrictive message says the following:
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Restricted region
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Based on your system settings, it appears you're located in Russia or Belarus. You cannot use YoutubeExplode on the territory of a terrorist state.If you believe this to be an error, check your system settings and make sure your country and region are configured correctly.If you wish to bypass this check, set the environment variable SLAVA_UKRAINI=1 in your system settings.
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ОК
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2023-07-21 13:06

#23 cyrmax

Or maybe this change is made by developer of youtubeexplode. but so another question: @pajper, will be here some adequate reaction to discrimination and restrictive messages in elten interface? or not?


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2023-07-21 13:09

#24 ArcticMoon

Sorry but I have no words.
Although as Pajper said, it's not him but exactly the developer of the youtube addon. Maybe after people reported it to github, the person was forced to change something.



2023-07-21 13:10

#25 pajper

Thank you for the information, yes, this is the actions of the creator of YoutubeExplode. I will deal with this topic.

As for Russia, I personally know many refugees from Ukraine, including those who have lost loved ones because of Russian actions.
I don't hate Russia, on the contrary, I've met some really cool Russians and I like the culture of this country. I also agree that in the west Ukraine is whitewashed and you don't hear about Ukrainian crimes. But I know too many Ukrainians who have been wronged by Russia not to believe them.
And apart from everything else, attacking another country is hardly a good deed. :)

Returning to Youtube question, I will look at it and try to change YoutubeExplode to avoid that discrimination.


#StandWithUkraine

Shoot for the Moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
2023-07-21 13:42

#26 pajper

I have no reason not to believe it. But we are talking about a section of the operation, not the whole thing.
I will say more, maybe acts of terror are committed by 10%, maybe 5%, maybe 1% of soldiers. But with everything I know, you can't say they don't occur.
-- (cyrmax):
@pajper I dont know from what source you get this information about that terror from russian soldiers.
One of my family members is fighting in this war right now, he has about 20 people under his control.
And he always tells me that of course they have to kill ukrainian soldiers and bomb military objects. but they never terror against civilians.
So what you tell now here looks more like propaganda from massmedia, aimed to scary citizens and make them hate russia.


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#StandWithUkraine

Shoot for the Moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
2023-07-21 13:47

#27 pajper

I always try to understand the other side, even if I don't agree with them. As I wrote, I do not support the actions of the YoutubeExplode developer, but I try to understand them.
None of us found ourselves in a situation where our countries were invaded. I can't imagine what I would have done then.
This does not justify discrimination, but explains it.
-- (ArcticMoon):
Let me quote from your post.
"Perhaps the Russians murdered the sister, mother, daughter of the creator of this library."

Perhaps. Yes, perhaps. It means it's not exact information, but if enough people in the news say so, it must be true.
I personally don't support the actions of Russia either. But you know, there's a point where let's stop being eaten by propaganda.

--


#StandWithUkraine

Shoot for the Moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
2023-07-21 13:49

#28 ArcticMoon

Of course, I understand you and your stance on this. What's more, it's always great to see that there are adequate people with whom it's possible to discuss such things in a civilized manner. :)



2023-07-21 15:08

#29 marchoffmann

Yeah, but whatever you do if you decide to go like fuck this country and be a total racist against them and everyone needs to agree then you have fricking brain damage. Sorry but this is a totaly shitty behavior. So I have no understanding for those people.


Captain of the chaotic mind and soal of McOi.
2023-07-21 17:45

#30 marchoffmann

Also I'd not say that I don't support russia, I would say I don't support the entirety of war. What about that. Everyone just goes like fuck russia and ukraine is so nice but you have to keep in mind that war in general, from any side, is not something good.


Captain of the chaotic mind and soal of McOi.
2023-07-21 17:47

#31 murderer

Guys. I don't mean to disrespect anyone here but. Why are we all just believing that immediately? Like someone could just be fucking with us or something


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2023-07-22 17:19

#32 cyrmax

@murderer, if you want some proofs, you can just change your region to russia or belarus in windows.
no need to change language, just change the region and maybe timezone.
and you will see this bullshit immediately.


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2023-07-22 17:43

#33 murderer

mhm. Sure


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2023-07-22 17:47

#34 khalil2009

ngl this sounds like aload of bullshit comeing from a trole



2023-07-22 17:47

#35 cyrmax

Guys, i repeat: set your region to russia and try.


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2023-07-22 17:49

#36 marchoffmann

Where's your proof that they're trolling? No need for such shit


Captain of the chaotic mind and soal of McOi.
2023-07-22 17:50

#37 khalil2009

I'm not saying that the fact that their troleing is true, but this just sounds like something a trole would make and idk if this is even reel



2023-07-22 17:52

#38 murderer

bro the fuck it actually said that. Well sorry.


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2023-07-22 18:12

#39 khalil2009

didn't work for me



2023-07-22 18:17

#40 khalil2009

dam it worked. I got the message but it seems like they changed it. Restricted region dialog Based on your system settings, it appears you're located in Russia or Belarus. You cannot use YoutubeExplode on the territory of a terrorist state.

If you believe this to be an error, check your system settings and make sure your country and region are configured correctly.

If you wish to bypass this check, set the environment variable `SLAVA_UKRAINI=1` in your system settings.



2023-07-22 18:22