Politics, Philosophy And Religion

tw. what's your most contropersial take

Started by khalil2009 338 posts last post 12 days ago Page 17 of 17

#321

lmfao chat i'm dead

#322

Damn I outdid myself there.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

#323

Nick Fuentes is kind of cute.
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.

#324

Those three things are not connected. They do not come together. Saying that they require escorts does not mean that they should not be educated. So, you should talk to people who hold each single one of those three instead of lumping them all together. For instance, I subscribe to the escorts idea, but not the forbidden education one, or the bank account one, since that's not something mandated by my religion, regardless of what any so-called muslim regime does or doesn't do.
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#325 Edited

Might I remind everyone that it was the liberal regimes of the United States and Israel that razed a school for girls in Iran.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

#326

LOL, neither regime at this time is liberal
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.

#327

Both are.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

#328

He probably means that they are not actually liberal even though they call themselves that
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#329 1 like

As in, not actually respecting freedom which is the entire sellingpoint of liberalism.
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#330

Liberalism has always struggled with diversity, inclusion and tolerance.
I used to be quite liberal when I was young, until I realised that differing views are not always that welcome, actually.
Senter San

#331 Edited

Respectfully, how do you know that you aren't still a liberal of some stripe and just don't realize it because you're conflating liberalism with progressivism? This is a very common mistake that those who call themselves conservative make, so it wouldn't necessarily be an indictment on you or your intelligence if this were to be the case. I'm only asking because I think it's important to use terms precisely.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

#332

That's a fair point. Over the years, the values and principles closest to my heart have became very clear to me and as far as I know, they're mostly associated with conservativism such as a traditional family structure, marriage, my views on security, crime and illegal immigration for the most part.
When I was younger, sometimes I confused my views with liberal views and the people who identified themselves as leftists, reacted very strongly and negatively to my beliefs, so I figured there's no place for me in that camp.
Senter San

#333

All that is very much compatible with classical/right liberalism though.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

#334

Ahh, I haven't looked at it from that angle. Yeah, it's way closer than neo liberalism.
Senter San

#335

I guess I could ask this to clarify the matter then. To what extent do you believe religion and religious principles should drive public policy? I personally believe that the ideal state ought to recognize Catholicism as the true religion and commit to allowing explicitly Catholic principles to inform it, hence I break decisively with every strand of liberalism since they all have a dogmatic commitment to strict state neutrality on religious matters.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

#336 1 like Edited

Yeah, at this stage I think Classical Liberal would be the best label for me, or English Toryism. American political discourse completely muddied the water on what the word Liberal means. I think Australia is a good example of this, because their right wing party is called the LLiberals and they were originally founded on liberal values
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.

#337 Edited

I struggle to make up my mind on the religious side of things, but for the most part, religion should be outside of politics in my opinion.
Does that automatically make me not conservative? Not sure about that.
Senter San

#338 1 like

My viewpoint makes me non-conservative in America since American conservatism is just classical liberalism.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."