I have had to downgrade my Elten to 2.5.2.3 as 2.5.2.5 has this issue for me where it will open for a few seconds and then just crash and close. IDK what's causing this, but it means I am running an older version, I didn't have an installer for 2.5.2.4 and I think someone else was also having a similar issue with that version, I can't remember.

how do you even downgrade

Uninstall the current one and install the older one.

%appdata%\elten\elten.log please

Oh I cleared app data the last time it did that thing, and when that didn't work I downgraded to 2523. I can upgrade later and see if it happens again and if so then somehow get the log, probably copy the log out of app data and then downgrade things back to then send it over.

I'm now running 2.5.2.3. The next 2 versions won't run any more on this computer. I think it's a Windows update thing but I'm not sure why, or how to fix it. I tried unblocking Elten in Windows Firewall and it told me that the player is already in the exceptions list, though I didn't see it there.

At any rate, I've rolled back, very reluctantly.

Honestly I think we'd get a lot further in terms of less problems if this program was writen in Python, actually used a proper UI like WXPython, and used accessible_output2 for any extra feedback with screen readers and or SAPI.

Noone gives a shit about your python obsession bro. It does not matter, well why am I talking to you actually. Pajper has written it down, Rudolf, so many people in seperate threads, writing such statements are just proof for reading inabillity at this point.

some people might and others don't.

lol
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Honestly I think we'd get a lot further in terms of less problems if this program was writen in Python, actually used a proper UI like WXPython, and used accessible_output2 for any extra feedback with screen readers and or SAPI.

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And no one gives a shit about you, shut the fuck up and get, a, life!!!!! Its not an obcession, so shut the fuck up and grow the fuck up, you stupid guy, you don't know what the fuck you're on about, so actually take the time to think before you start attacking people like that, you asshole!
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Noone gives a shit about your python obsession bro. It does not matter, well why am I talking to you actually. Pajper has written it down, Rudolf, so many people in seperate threads, writing such statements are just proof for reading inabillity at this point.

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agreed.

please not in hear alex. and everyone, because it's not on the topic, yes I reacted in some threads, but It can't keep progressing like this.

Aww, someone not having any arguments anymore cuz they're not even knowing what they're talking about? Thanks, was a good laugh.
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And no one gives a shit about you, shut the fuck up and get, a, life!!!!! Its not an obcession, so shut the fuck up and grow the fuck up, you stupid guy, you don't know what the fuck you're on about, so actually take the time to think before you start attacking people like that, you asshole!
-- (Jonathan):
Noone gives a shit about your python obsession bro. It does not matter, well why am I talking to you actually. Pajper has written it down, Rudolf, so many people in seperate threads, writing such statements are just proof for reading inabillity at this point.

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please stop it, we don't need drama, starting, in an development group of all groups? Are you serious? Now I know why the polish forum is going very well, because there is not much drama in the polish forums. But hear? This is the reason! It's stupid!
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Aww, someone not having any arguments anymore cuz they're not even knowing what they're talking about? Thanks, was a good laugh.
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And no one gives a shit about you, shut the fuck up and get, a, life!!!!! Its not an obcession, so shut the fuck up and grow the fuck up, you stupid guy, you don't know what the fuck you're on about, so actually take the time to think before you start attacking people like that, you asshole!
-- (Jonathan):
Noone gives a shit about your python obsession bro. It does not matter, well why am I talking to you actually. Pajper has written it down, Rudolf, so many people in seperate threads, writing such statements are just proof for reading inabillity at this point.

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For real, but some people don't know when to keep their god damn mouths shut, and they start shit, and its annoying!
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please stop it, we don't need drama, starting, in an development group of all groups? Are you serious? Now I know why the polish forum is going very well, because there is not much drama in the polish forums. But hear? This is the reason! It's stupid!
-- (Jonathan):
Aww, someone not having any arguments anymore cuz they're not even knowing what they're talking about? Thanks, was a good laugh.
-- (alchappers):
And no one gives a shit about you, shut the fuck up and get, a, life!!!!! Its not an obcession, so shut the fuck up and grow the fuck up, you stupid guy, you don't know what the fuck you're on about, so actually take the time to think before you start attacking people like that, you asshole!
-- (Jonathan):
Noone gives a shit about your python obsession bro. It does not matter, well why am I talking to you actually. Pajper has written it down, Rudolf, so many people in seperate threads, writing such statements are just proof for reading inabillity at this point.

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Anyway, back on topic, I do think if this was a native program and not just a custom audio interface, we'd have a better job at fixing a lot of the problems.

as well as fixing up the github so that other people can try to work on improvements for the thing. Speaking of pajper, any way your gunna have this project on github open to other users so that you can make commits for it and also ad a way to have more programs/games, because both shooter and this mining saper thing are, um, not the best... As well as other stuff

Yeah exactly, I hope at some point the GitHub repo gets updated.

No worrys man. I'm patient and don't take things personal. I'm sure you'll learn it one day. Just stay focused, you can do it.
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For real, but some people don't know when to keep their god damn mouths shut, and they start shit, and its annoying!
-- (MayowaArogundade):
please stop it, we don't need drama, starting, in an development group of all groups? Are you serious? Now I know why the polish forum is going very well, because there is not much drama in the polish forums. But hear? This is the reason! It's stupid!
-- (Jonathan):
Aww, someone not having any arguments anymore cuz they're not even knowing what they're talking about? Thanks, was a good laugh.
-- (alchappers):
And no one gives a shit about you, shut the fuck up and get, a, life!!!!! Its not an obcession, so shut the fuck up and grow the fuck up, you stupid guy, you don't know what the fuck you're on about, so actually take the time to think before you start attacking people like that, you asshole!
-- (Jonathan):
Noone gives a shit about your python obsession bro. It does not matter, well why am I talking to you actually. Pajper has written it down, Rudolf, so many people in seperate threads, writing such statements are just proof for reading inabillity at this point.

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