Lets Talk About the Issue of Transgenderism

This may be a highly controversial position, but I stand firmly on the affirmative side of this debate. I contend that they have caused—and will continue to cause—serious harm to society and a gradual erosion of social order. Furthermore, I believe it is far less compassionate to leave them to suffer in their pain than it is to provide them with care in a proper medical facility.

A big no to your question. My reason is it's not those who are transgender or any of the other groups that cause any harm. It's those that don't like their perceived understanding of ideas being questioned or changed in some way. I've also heard too many stories of people being institutionalised because other people felt uncumfortable. Putting anyone in an institution because you don't like the look of them causes more harm then anything in my opinion. I also don't believe that they are mentally ill. I guess I should've said this at the beginning.

I won’t address your first claim because it’s logically absurd. However, I’d like to ask you a question: would you consider it a form of mental illness if someone experienced extreme disillusionment or detachment from reality for a prolonged period of time?

Seriously dude, how old are you?

How does my age corilate to a Genuine question of the users of this group?

I don't know what you mean that my logic is absurd , but anyway. The disconnection from reality can be sorted out if the person got the right therapy, and medication. I don't think you can compare that to being a transgender person. And other illnesses like depression, a person can stil live in society. You don't have to be put away in some place, or isolated.

tbh it does cause harm, even if it’s not intentional. Just because someone isn’t directly hurting others doesn’t mean there aren’t negative effects on society or individuals over time.

Okay. Tell me this. Have you ever talked to a trans gender person before? Because it sure as hell doesn't look like it mate.

lolYou don’t have to personally know someone to have a perspective on the issue.

And I agree with that. But this is rather offensive to the trans community. Sure, there are people in that community that are, indeed fucked up, but that doesn't count for all people in that community.

If someone believes they are not at home in their own body, that belief reflects a deep conflict between perception and reality, which in and of itself would constitute the descriptor of being fucked up in some sense. Can you at least agree to be intellectually honest, and acknowledge this?

I think that's a troll but I minimalistically agree that at least it's kind of nonsense. Now go hate me and all that.

@10, "I understand it might offend some people, but I’m not going to sugarcoat my opinion. I believe it’s a mental disorder, and treating it like it’s completely normal only makes things worse, whether people like hearing that or not."

Transgenderism is the only mental health issue that we treat by embracing it. And yes, it is a mental health problem. I'm not transphobic when I say that. Go look it up yourself.

EDIT

Shameless self-promotion, I made a thread like this in Reformed Elten English for those of us who would like to discuss this issue in a forum where the discussion won't be deleted because the mods thinks that a charged post is uncool or something

I saw this in the other English Community and I'm trying to engage with that dump less and less so I figured I'd bring it up here.
Rambo asked the question if Transgender folks should be institutionalised, now I disagree with it, I think it's an interesting question.
First off, yes, it is a mental health condition, or at least, the result of a mental health disease. Body/gender disphoria to be exact. I disagree with the idea that they should be institutionalised because I think that in the grand scheme of things they're not harming the broader community, possibly only themsleves and based on my worldview they should be left alone.
What I do believe though, it should be something that we discourage. If you really want to go ahead with that, then sure, that's your choice, but they should have to put a few checks in place, for example not letting children/young adults do it, ensure people wnating to transition are of sound mind, etc. The state should also not be responsible for footing the bill. What are your thoughts?

I personally thinkg it should be even more discouraged. I didn't actually know it was a mental illness before you explained it, but regardless I personally think that's unhumanly modifying the body with hormons or even worse (e.g. genital surgery) it is not suited to receive. I guess we never can stop preventing people to dress and act such as they want, but I personally find it nonsense changing their name, pronouns and everything in between. It's a difference between prevening to be called something else since your name of birth doesn't get along with you or forcing everyone to - despite your outter appereance as the orginal gender - talk to you to other pronouns. I'm a firm believer of that how you have been born is also how you are and it's unhealthy and not supposed to happen changing it around just because a social or mental construct or even just a trent. Now go feel free to hate or disagree with me, that's, however, my opinion just there.

I don't really understand it. Yeah you look like a woman but you don't have all of the stuff that comes with being a woman like the ability to bare children, produce milk or even that horrific cycle. It seems kind of disrespectful to me in a way

Yeah, and I feel like I need to make a thread about something simmalar to this, It's strange, but it has bothered me and I feel like I should make it. Let's do this.

I know multiple people who are transgender, and they are completely normal. It is not a mental disorder, it is a form of sexuality. With Rambo's logic, lesbians had to be isolated as well, just think about that for a second

lol. "Knowing a few people personally doesn’t change the bigger picture. Just because someone seems 'normal' to you doesn’t mean there isn’t an underlying issue.