Sense its clear that the adminastration can't defend their own actions

See post 31 in comment on the sichuation of elten english, its clear through the last week that the admins and mods can't have any feedback that they don't like dispite itempts to act in a respectful manner. So I am not going to just drop it, I want this to be clear, these guys keep deleateing and closeing threds with feedback of their adminastration. I also would like to say, I don't dislike the people in question, but at some point something has to give and in that post I invoked at the start of this post, I point out how if anything has to bend its the adminastration because they should be acting in the best intrests of the group they can't just expect the group to looze very active members, so at some point you should as an admin that should be acting and doing things for the group step down. They have been closeing these topics with limited defence for their own actions and can't justify why they still keep the mod team and admin the same. Just read for yourself you will also see that meny posts were deleated, see the other elten group that arkives the posts they don't like and inform yourself if you have any hope in this comunity, I and a few others can't be the only saying this.

There is no point. They will never willingly step down. The only options are to put up with it or move to a new forum. It doesn't have to be mine. Anyone can create one if they wish, but those are the options. Either leave or stay and wallow in our own vomit and shit.
It's just super sad that this is the default English community that people are joined into. Making a new forum is also hard because there's so much continent here already. Going there everyone will have to establish everything from scratch and that's a problem any and every forum that pops up will face. We have to collectively agree enough is enough and move on, or just stay quiet.

My opinion is this. When posts are kept people complain, when posts are deleted people complain. People who do troling complain, even if that deletion was needed. In short people are never satisfied, it's all about the ego. I'm not even sure if the best addmin or mods could moderate this group.

I think there is more to that in context then just that @3, and @2 I agree or he litterly has to get forsfully removed.

@luisa but that's jsut not correct.
From my experience many more have complained due to the topic deletion thing so idk where you're getting that info from, I'd love to know though

Let's just stop posting here. Let's just leave the group everyone and let them continue their shitshow, but already without us. I'm wondering what and how they'll moderate.

Well you can do that, but I'm not leaveing.
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Let's just stop posting here. Let's just leave the group everyone and let them continue their shitshow, but already without us. I'm wondering what and how they'll moderate.

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And that's the issue, see post 7. People won't bother to leave. Eventually there always will be people who don't give a damn and just continue using.
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Let's just stop posting here. Let's just leave the group everyone and let them continue their shitshow, but already without us. I'm wondering what and how they'll moderate.

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@5 she's one of those who thinks that deleting posts is a good thing, so acknowledging that not deleting posts is the more popular position would be untennable, so it's better to say that both positions are unpopular to different people.

Why are all the people who talk how everyone should stop posting on this forum still posting on this forum?

You people should go into the conferences more often, it's like plato's academy there every night.

lol nope, it'll get hectic. And we all know it.

I can only go if its not certain people that we all know very well...

I agree. And we arn't nameing names, they know who they are.
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I can only go if its not certain people that we all know very well...

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