You're throwing the kind of arguments around that nobody from the opposition takes seriously, been there, done that.

I mean they can reject them if they want to, but this issue does ultimately boil down to philosophy and ethics

Yes, however the way in which an argument is presented has a differing chance of being respected to a degree, even by someone who might be pro choice I'm sure. Meaning that if we're not giving concrete examples and just putting everyone in a box, and justifying our position from a one-sided position won't encourage the person with opposite views to even consider why we think the way we do.

Definitely. How would you personally present the argument?

Like I've done above, in my first post. It wasn't just saying you people are this and that without any concrete arguments, I've given examples and elaborated.