Together, we can do more! I'm waiting for your vote.

Hey!
Probably Your new admin here:
I have 7 years of moderation experience and I had to face many problems during this period of time. Because of this I have developed many reliable solutions which can help to make this community better.
I moderated some Elten groups (Including Polish Elten community), i Was on Elten Elders council from 2017 to 2021., also i was in moderation team of another online forums in the web, had admin in a few Telegram and Whatsapp groups. Also had some online games servers.
You can see that my experience is wide-ranging and covers different types of platforms and communities. I don't want to copy Polish main group rules and functionality, because each community is individual and needs fresh look at the matter.
I always try to follow the rules and regulations and keep order in the forums which I moderate.
Any actions which I perform personally or which are performed by my moderation team are always announced in a pinned thread at the top so that everyone can get information what and why was did.
I react quickly and firmly to all reports of irregularities and problems.
I want to create a strong, grown-up moderation team that does its work to generally accepted standards, and functions instinctively and sensibly.
I never doing something because of private reasons when i working as a moderator and don't accept double standards.
If my friend, love or whoever else, also the President if he would like to register here broke any point of published rules must get the consequences. I don't care who you are if you aren't fair and breaking rules.
Amongst other things, I have plans to create more tematic forums, write the rules in the simplest terms, as simple as possible to be understood by all registered users, because that not everyone here (Including me) is a native speaker.
I have trouble-free contact with the Polish Elten community, so you will never feel less important again. All important information and decisions made in connection with the Elten link will be translated and, if the board of elders wishes, consulted with English community users.
I hope that i will be selected as the main administrator of Elten English Community because this group have potential to be friendly, good place to anyone.
If you have any questions, feel fre to ask me here.
Greetings.

it's really hard to decide if I will vote sir charlie or you. we will see. have to think over that for longer.

You are getting my vote. I wish you success and trust from other people as well. :)

I wish you lot of succes

Our cooperation in moderation has always been great. I never had any objections to you either in the situation when I was the administrator and you were the moderator, or vice versa. You always carried out your duties reliably and acted in an orderly manner. You always informed your activities and consulted ideas with the team. Despite the fact that I am not the most active person on English Elten Comunity, you receive my vote and wishes you every success.

Well, since I believe my questions for Charlie were valid and very important in regards to what happens next to this community, I would like to ask you the same questions as I asked Charlie:
Let's say, hypothetically you have a clear list of rules written for the community, thus giving you the ability to act upon people who let's say spam, carry out personal attacks, etc. However as we have seen time and time again, a portion of members undermines every decision the dev or a possible admin makes and intentionally turns every topic, every discussion into a complete trash heap.
My question is, how do you intend to punish them and keep an order on the forums, when would you consider bans, how many warnings are reasonable and do you have any ideas about the potential measures the mods can take to delete unnecessary posts or topic without being harassed by the community? Basically, is there going to be some protection for the mods so that accountability is there, but also commonsense, rational decisions aren't halted by members who have ill intentions and are known for stirring up drama without any substance in their claims?

Replies here:
Q: How do you intend to punish them and keep an order on the forums?
A: In accordance with the current Elten link portal rules and group rules which I will draw up with the moderation team.
Q: When would you consider bans?
A: When user don't stop messing up the forum after 3 warns excluding special cases in which he can be banned faster due to really harmful behaviour that harms others or breaks European law, e.g. pedophilia or publicly distributed child porn etc.
Q: How many warnings are reasonable?
A: Replied abowe.
Q: Do you have any ideas about the potential measures the mods can take to delete unnecessary posts or topic without being harassed by the community?
A: Yes. Above all, openness and clear communication with users. We will inform about any taken action and explain why we decided to do something.
Q: Basically, is there going to be some protection for the mods so that accountability is there, but also commonsense, rational decisions aren't halted by members who have ill intentions and are known for stirring up drama without any substance in their claims?
A: Of course. Only calmness and common sense can save us so all discussions about our decisions will be taken into account if they will be sensible.

European law, some people don't know what all that intales so they may not be willing to agree with it if you bring it up and say this is bad thanks to European law and then ban them thanks to that.

Yep, but The main regulations of the platform are in line with it. First and foremost, it is about banning illegal content.

You have my vote. Best of luck!

My only concern is you previously voiced support for Pajper's deletion policy. I can't cast my vote for a person who thinks it's OK to delete the content of other users. That leads to a very slippery and dangerous slope which then opens the door to all kinds of oppressive and dare I say toxic behaviour from the staff later on.
Therefore, I'd like to know what's your official stance on deleting content that you and the staff deem harmful.

good luck. You have my vote

Sure:
Large offtopics will be separated into new threads and not be deleted.
If user break the rules in he's post it can be deleted but we will say why and what has been removed.
Insults will be removed urgently without any discussions.
Posts which contain one words like "Yes", "Okay", "Great", "I agree", also because here we have option to like someones post and we can express approval in this way. Because of this, reading any topics will be easier and more nicely to the readers.
Also we don't need topics with titles like: "A weirt problem", "Question about something". User must precise what he need, What this topic contains and what about it's.
I hope that i explained everything. If you have any other questions feel free to ask here.

PS:
By deleting something i don't mean removing it completely. It will be moved to the invisible forum which will work like an archive to the moderators so they can show some evidences if user need it. In lot of groups which i admistrated or moderated something like THIS worked REALLY GOOD SO I THINK THAT'S THE WAY, but as always i'm not closed to any suggestions and changes.

This one I am not supporting though. Nothing should be deleted, of course links leading to stuff that's not allowed would be exclusions. But posts of users should never be removed just like that.

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Sure:
Large offtopics will be separated into new threads and not be deleted.
If user break the rules in he's post it can be deleted but we will say why and what has been removed.
Insults will be removed urgently without any discussions.
Posts which contain one words like "Yes", "Okay", "Great", "I agree", also because here we have option to like someones post and we can express approval in this way. Because of this, reading any topics will be easier and more nicely to the readers.
Also we don't need topics with titles like: "A weirt problem", "Question about something". User must precise what he need, What this topic contains and what about it's.
I hope that i explained everything. If you have any other questions feel free to ask here.

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How should we trust the words of an admin if he says oh, on the invisible forum I'm seeing this and that so we are banning you. How should I trust an admin so that they won't modify my deleted post on the inivisible forum?

I don't understand how anyone would allow spam and attack wanting to clear up the forum, but maybe we're from different realities.

Okay, so it's need a discussion and i think that we will get the consensus.

Okay, here is a scenario. A racist term is used against ablack person, in South Africa, such as the K word, or calling them a munkey. Would you let it go? Sure we could archive it, but that person would have to see that word or terms everytime, they came across this topic. And experience trauma. One can argue they don't have to read it, but stil. To me it seems like lets hold on to stuff, no matter what if a person gets hurt psychologically.

I can put the same arguement or question, such as the Jews are blamed for the faults of the world. Or when it comes to someone's sexual orientation. Do we say that person can say whatever no matter if the other party is affected or hurt psychologically? This could include forum posts or someone's status. Thoughts would be appreciated.

I can understand the idea of keeping evidence, but we should also consider the individual needs of a person, meaning that if both parties have seen it and it has been established that it is an insult, personal attack, or something like that and the a ttacked person wants it removed, it should be. Maybe let's settle on the idea that racist, homophobic and other derogatory, sensitive content should be removed, and everything else should be archived? Maybe categorising it a little would help. Either way, there will be a place for discussions.