Cool, I also think much but its kinda, not workin on the one hand to be disapointed and still, yea, always beeing like oh yea, its gonna be better she is this, that, whatever.
So what do you mean with "smarter"?

Now serously what the hell do you mean? Sorry but i don't find nicer words. We should be smarter? The fight is lost already, now we have to protect this community as good as we can from it dying completely due to completely bad staff.

Couldn't have said t better. Besides as pointed out before i don't even believe her that testing story.
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Well if I get myself banned at least I said what I needed to say. Arctic is not only a ridiculous option as a staff member, but also has the audacity to raise a comment just for testing purposes. Do we seriously want an admin that takes the opportunity to do such things? At this point I do not care about where the vote goes. But mkay, for those who voted her, you asked for it.

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So, by your logic of attacking someone, I can go rob a store, say it was an experiment, and I can get away with it? smiling face with smiling eyes this is just going to make it all better and noone will care if I robbed the store

No. That's the mistake they're making. Instead of getting angry, the best thing you can do is. Submit your concerns to pajper first. Secondly, what you should do is ask her what she plans to do with the community. And if answers cannot be found there, whether other drastic measures should be taken like now.

it's more. I'm not very happy either despite voting for it. I still didn't like what he's done in recent times, but we have to talk precisely. because if we go out to bomb, the harmed will always be us because we have no power. unfortunately it is like that.

No, we are the community. We have the power. Imagine all of us that don't like arctic moon left now. How silent it would be in here suddenly... And pajper is probably reading this so we can also express our concerns publicly, this is how community platforms work.
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it's more. I'm not very happy either despite voting for it. I still didn't like what he's done in recent times, but we have to talk precisely. because if we go out to bomb, the harmed will always be us because we have no power. unfortunately it is like that.

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Sadly many people do say they don't like her/in general administration teams but do nothing against that, but yes, agree, if, then...

But it's about debating, not making multiple publications, although I agree with you Karmien. things as they are, and there you hit a very good point. In my opinion, before all this conflict, she could do something. But after her recent actions, I don't think so. What's more, if she does things wrong, there will have to be an even more serious debate.

Debating with arctic moon? Good joke man, you god me on this one. I have tried this the last 2 years, and it's sickening to be all honest.

Do you remember what I wrote days ago? I still maintain it. Proposals had to be made, and this was a disaster. Only one candidate did them, and he was the only one who demonstrated something with facts.

In that case, with the pajper himself. He really has the last word. and if something must be done, it is to talk here and debate so that this comes to fruition.

they should have done a debate simular to the presadenchal debate before voting to better show all sides and things people are going to do to inprove the group

I have to see i find it kind of funny that here is no on defending although 55 percent voted her. Kinda weird a bit to be honest.

That's what I think, but there is a lot of lack of professionalism here. I tried to get this to an acceptable position, and only Karmien showed good things he could do.

I didn't see the post at first, but a live debate would have been interesting indead.
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they should have done a debate simular to the presadenchal debate before voting to better show all sides and things people are going to do to inprove the group

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I think that the people who voted for her only did so because they don't kerently care

It's more. At all times I tried to advise the candidates to do things well. ArcticMoon made mistakes, Karmien too but at the end of the day only Karmien knew how to get back on the right path.

not rong there I wish that the others had made statements aswell

I voted for her because I saw a good initial proposal, but the mistakes she made in this course make me think. I sent her a few messages, first advising her, then well, good for her for winning this, and she didn't respond. but if I have to say something I say it without problems