How long have you been on Elten?
What describes you the best?
I am seen here times to times, but I'd not consider myself as an active user.
13% 17
I am not too active, sometimes one forum post, private message, but not too frequently.
21% 27
I am moderately active, sometimes I post something and follow some discussions.
39% 49
I am very active, trying to post or read something here on a daily basis.
22% 28
If there's someone more active than me, it can be only an AI that doesn't need a sleep.
4% 5
Please select up to three Elten features that are the most important to you.
Conferences, including private calls
50% 63
Filemanager (program)
11% 14
One of other features, like notes, polls
5% 6
What's your native language?
What's the status of Elten English Community group?
English Community is just like a garbage collection.
21% 26
Among spam and insults there are single interesting discussions.
29% 36
At least some of the discussions are worth following.
31% 39
There are some issues, but to the majority of posts I have no reservations.
10% 12
I don't see any problems.
10% 13
Comparing the current overal status of forum and one that used to be some years ago, what would you say?
It's noticeably worse.
44% 56
It's noticeably better.
3% 4
What's the main issue of Elten English Community?
Immaturity of some users
53% 67
Lack of interesting discussions or low level of those ongoing
7% 9
One change that is the most important, excluding finding an administrator
Ruthlessness is the only way
add old veryfication
finding an active admin
It might have been that I was one of them four years ago but even then, the forums just seemed to be nice people talking about things. There was barely anything, the ocasional little thing but this is just constant.
Speeding the program up a little
unins000.exe, at least for some users
finding more english users from different countries.
I would say moderating the forum, it's not the staff, more of the users.
none
I have only really been here for a few mounths and as of now don't really have anything spisific that needs to be adressed.
I have the impression that one administrator will not influence this community so easily. Immaturity and childishness have become so embedded in this forum that it will be difficult to convince others to return, and without returning there will be no improvement in the level of content. We need to show that a better day has come for the English community.
I'd like to see people get held accountable. People here tend to just be assholes because they feel like they're better than others. It's a huge problem. For example in the intro topic, we had a fight break out between users right beneath the post of a brand new person.
A little bit relaxing the rules regarding piracy because Elten itself violates Google's rules with the Youtube program.
Removing topics without a proper title named like Problem a question without any describtion in the title.
Being a bit stricter.
Creating specific guidelines for each forum, to try and minimise offtopic discussions
porn hub, google chrome
People who are so violent should be banned.
getting and encouraging some users with real and practical knowledge and experience, to counter the audio-games type of atmosphere, where a kind of fun and entertainment mixes with, and or leads to, immature discussions, disrespect, hate and off-topic discussions
Drama should be cut off and the new admin should pay extra attention to the drama and immature behaviour. I think users who are under 16 years shouldn't be allowed into this community at all, they are the immature ones after all.
Being consequent when following a well-formed and clearly written set of rules.
I don't see any problems
since it is online, give bann for spammers by the serialnumber of the mainboardd of the pc
making elton a better place
I'm sorry, but pajper, although I do not accept some of his decisions, is the only voice of reason in the discussion related to this study and the thread shows that we need to get the kids out of here before we start building something.
Mac App or English Version of the Website.
Need new moods
I hope Manny gets unbanned. GeorgeWu
please make a media catalog or someting like that to an extent. it was very helpful in curing bordem
I feel as though there is lots of insults in the conferences and forums as well as lots of secktual jokes.
Creating rules and sticking to them firmly.
I believe we have to start again. I don't believe it's possible to clean up this garbage in a sensible way. Let's try again, let's start new threads, let's not insult others. Will be better.
I want all of us to just get along, and when their are children in the forum, we all got to just respect everyone no matter what age they are.
I actually have no idea.
I agree to some of the last answers on this poll allready. To be honest, I find its very difficult to build a own opinion right now, but I know that at the moment, every previous administrator candidate is not an option, and we all have seen that. This all could be so much better if people would think one second about what they are saying and what they want really. We have seen the true face of some people, again or new... But anyway, what I really want to say is, get rules, and not the 2205 words and 13151 characters in 127 paragraphs in the Terms noone is reading. Rules in the moderation topics wich asign strickt ponishments for misbehaviour, and always rever and stick to them. And then, you , pajper need to give admins more control, well how mmany spam accounts have we seen on here? How many kids under 13, avoiding bans oor whatever, I can't really remember and also don't want to, cuz its sad. But its not an option to just show up when drama is happening and then go back and never show up again, you need to check on your program, stay in contact with admins and see whats needed. Also, the ban should finally mean a ban, if you ban someone from the english community, that can't just be a group, and its absolutely dumb that you just can recreate accounts a thousand times if you have the time and come back.
There should be ways to better defend yourself against spam, racism and discrimination, both in private and in open groups. Maybe in closed groups, for example a text field where you could write a short message about why you want to join the group, for example.
Deleting topics which contain drama and deal with users who keep causing it and making posts go off topic.
stopping these imeturity.
who ever gets the administrator should not be a toxic person but also enforce a bit stricter moderation on certain topics.
I feel that there needs to be a stronger set of rules for users because some forums get off topic or I have seen a slight bit of arguments. They wern't too major but somehow users need to understand a bit of respect.
Respeckt to all of the users and frendly descussions.
I would say what is most important is accountability, not only from the users but also amongst the administrators. if someone does something, such and such person should be held accountable for their actions.
Geting people to behave better. Or take their problems elsewhere.
Make loading times faster for lots of sections of elten. Also, while loading something, have it keep doing so, even when out of the window.
not being able to use the same email to make accounts
That we all could just get done with being brats to each other, other comunities work too. It's sad to see how this english place evolved into bullshit. Around 2022 I think it was actually really nice, excluding the user user problem that however only impacted conferences. But play an active mud and people are all friendly to each other. Just as example. Good comunities can work if users don't decide to be assholes all of the time or are just being stupid. This is honestly what's going on in here. 2 years ago almost, I created the feeling lonely topic, since I liked this comunity. Now I'd never create such a topic anymore, simply because I don't expect anything but trash coming back as answers. Read it through and you'll see interesting, helpful and useful things
there has been nothing but drama, my friend manny was wrongfully banned for no reason, and the word pedophile has been thrown around more then once with out any proof of the people being that.
Order. Minimize stupidity
Moderation that admins should tell someone off if they don't like tips another person is sharing, or, if I thank the one person who shared a tip.
A better Eltin
I don't know honestly.
I don't know if it's a good idea, but maybe the messages were reviewed before sending them, and if the messages contained any insults or spam, the sending would be canceled.
none.
Increasing the involvement of inactive users on forums
I'm still getting used to the system as a hole.
Organisation of the forums.
I think if we would have a new administrator everything will be better, so I have no feedback here.
Proper codified rules
Certain toxic sers whoh are contributing nothing to conversations should be removed IMO.
just more inforced administration, but not too much, because some arguments are fun to watch
everything goes hand in hand, but I think more bans should also be applied
Rules need to be enforced at an equal basis for all users. Enough of this lacks enforcement where one user is banned for one offence but another is ignored
Making a team that will cooperate in all matters administrative, and will keep on top of trouble before it gets out of hand.
Na
good moderation, to prevent insults
n/a
What's the preferred way things should go in your opinion?
Delete the current community and build a new one from the scratch.
13% 17
Archive all current threads except the most important and create new one in their place.
19% 24
Delete only the most spammy or insulting posts and let things go their way.
42% 53
Do not interfere with previous posts, let only the future shape the forum.
25% 32
How about looking for a group administrator?
We have a candidacy, just assign this role to Sir-Charlie.
27% 34
A new election is needed, where candidates will answer questions of users in more detail and present themselves widely.
34% 43
A new election is a good option, but after some time. Let the developer shape new group even if this process lasts. Then, on a new basis, we'll consider who is the best person to manage it all.
20% 25
Currently I can see no candidacy, let's wait for new users, promote Elten, and then look.
19% 24
Putting the forum aside for a moment, what three changes do you see that would allow for greater inclusion of the non-polish community in Elten?
We need better contact with developer, answers to issues.
nothing
At first, it would be great if the polish administration opened up a little to other communities. Of course only those moderators, who speak english at least a little. There should be a discussion about what's implemented already, but isn't in the english community yet. We should exchange ideas, know the other folks a little better. We should be more united as a community, regardless of our native language.
More languages.
1 create a beta testing group only in english and you will write everything there, someone could create it on polish and other languages, if github helps you a lot, I mean save your time, consider it and later explain people how to use this platform. 2 We have to encourage people to create their own groups, especially in other other languages than polish and english, maybe later these groups will be recommended. 3 We have to show more elten features for other users, not so many people know that you can write wordpress blogs here, do a lot of interesting things on conferences and so on
More staff attention to the forum, moderation, and users more noticing
none
I have only really been here for a few mounths and as of now don't really have anything spisific that needs to be adressed.
Much better, we have translations, for example, but the Polish Community is still clearly favored.
I have no ideas.
1. Better support for non-english alphabets, for example hungarian and german letters ö, ü, ó, ő, ú, ű, é, á, í and cyrillic symbols. 2. Speeding up the client, because some users who may find Elten interesting would just hate it for its slow and unresponsive interface. 3. Adding more useful programs such as mail client, handlers for more file types, extensive and usable music player, etc.
some people use macOS and have told me they would like to see an elten client on macOS.
The same priority to Polish ad English events etc.
1. Website translation. 2. Translating the thing to other languages. 3. Patience and dedication.
Good marketing and promotion, a reliable and functional tutorial for new users who might need it and a mobile app
manny should be banned
As english speaker I felt being a second rate, this should be improved by more engagement of our community in Elten..
promoting Elten in places related but not limited to young and extra young visually impaired people. Some english speaking countries, namely U.S, have a bit different culture of entering one's online being. In the omnipresence of notetakers like Braille Note and similar, the average age of a potential user drops by few years comparing to polish users. Promoting theprogram in places with approach similar to european ICC, including Podcasts, may be some beacon here. Opening the platform for mac/IOS ecosystem. They really are in far wider use than in Poland.
Translate the WebUI and online presence to make it multilingual, sort group by language (e.g. by tagging so someone can select all tags s/he understands and only see relevant groups), built-in translation capabilities for things like descriptions that were not yet translated
reducing the spam, taking the trollers and drama makers and rude Marchhoffmann subject to rules as well as declearing strong rules which are only constructive, for example respecting opinions of others even if not accepted, adding rules against current homophoby on elten. I guess those would be effective enough though.
not sure
Create a multilingual centre for discussions on the shape of Elten, with bugs reporting, suggestions etc.
An English Website, Mac app and Mobile Apps.
Idk
It would be nice if Elten has the ability to change your username and to delete accounts. Also it would be good if the youtube program allow us to download playlist
maybe make the blogs sortble by the language, if those things aren't their already
translation of posts in other languages if this is possible.
This question makes me wonder how Klango became so popular. Saying that, it was only popular in Poland, the English-speaking nations and Germany really. I can only think of one thing right now that would make it better finding people who have the time to represent Elten actively in more countries. Back in the Klango days, the social networking aspect was so different compared to today as well, which could be the explanation as to why things are as they are with Elten now.
We should be more involved in development, for example I don't ever know if pajper reads beta testing group.
I think we deserve better communication with the administrator. I don't mean reaction time, but any reaction at all. Give us the rules for submitting issues if you want, but refer to them then.
Make the premium package a permanent thing instead of expiring after a year.
No idea.
English people in the Council of elders, giving up to date informations also outside the polish groups, because when you look into it, there is stuff I have never seen or heard about elten anywhere bevore. In general, be mmore open to people, to feedback, because currently, there is no serious place to share it. Inform us why you do things, what you do, so we can build up a good connection again and understand problems and decisions.
more features, a few free things and less expensive packages.
I don't know the pollish community.
More support from staff, better forum catigories, and more comunication from the development team
Inclooding persons of other Languages in the elders councel.
active administrators, accountability, and an environment where people can voice their opinions without the need for sensorship. This obviously excludes racist and other such comments.
Having more communication from the developer. Keeping politics and religion out of discussion or user status. That's all what I can think of.
Having more events for the elten english community, keep us more included and updated on what you are doing with the program, and not hiding the community for those who are curious about either language so they could intermingle. The last thing I said may be erelavent, but I haven't seen a way to access any other communities but english.
more free features
Very good, and hard, question. Surely a complete english website, a greater, no child userbase that you can actually talk to, since we have way to many children in here, also including more thought through forums considering how much the polish have, and a good rules system including better comunication between staff in groups, user warnings and bans you can set for a period of time, etc.
The lag is bad. This is the most annoying thing about this app, other than that it's nice. Updates take a while, etc. Maybe a mirror server or something would be helpful?
Well, I do not look at the Polish elten community, as I do not speak that language, however, I believe deleting posts from people that complain about something that I share that others may find useful might be a good idea.
I don't know.
I don't feel excluded.
Unsure
dk.
This platform NEEDS!!! a mobile app. Needs with emphasis. I realize that developer time isn't cheap and that there are challenges, but seriously, this user base is tiny to begin with, and if you want to expand beyond a few dozen blind kids with a computer, a mobile app is the least that can be done here. That is all I have for you.
I see one but important, better contact with developer or at least administration team
cross platform client, ofcourse, and stopping of commercializing features?
I can't give a good answer just yet.
I'm not sure.
it would be cool if you pajper would be more reachable. right now this is only awayable for sponsors. also, it would be cool if not only people who are in the polish groups get reports and the website should be translated to english. there stands right now only that the site is under construction.
Translate the Elten site into English.
I'm not sure really, maybe a standard documents of rules that isn't turms of use because no one reads stuff called turms or anything, but I'm not sure what else
Maybe, putting more work into the English website, which would help more people become aware of Elten. I can't think of two more.
Translations from within the community itself would be a major factor.
N/a
The English (and other) website needs to be updated, more moderators should be appointed, and appeals and promotions should probably be made to get a better userbase.
n/a
Comments, doubts
I have just read the topic associated with this poll and there are no words for it. I wish this programme well, but the user behaviour is uncommentable and I feel sorry for the developer. I have the impression that only an incendiary grenade will help here.
asasasa
I mean well, but, pajper, it makes no sense. You see how pathetic the approach is, it is a waste of your nerves and time.
It looks very bad when you clean an english group for months and when you say that you don't have time, it doesn't help at all, because of it,, please, don't try to do again, we have to find admin and he will do his job, really, you don't have to. ps. Maybe it will be a good idea to give programmers a sponsor package for programming? For example 1 small error, and you will get 1 week sponsor package if someone does something special, he will get it for longer.
none
so for the election I feel we need to come to agreement of how it should be run to not have to have simular ishues we have had prevously.
Do not stick around, just remove offensive content by some users, including from threads about this poll. If they recidive, they will be banned. Gentle requests will not help.
I cannot say that I suffer from the current situation with the english community. Yes, there are insults, there are lots of degradation and immaturity, toxic people wandering around. But this is an atmosphere of almost every big community of different ages and mentalities. My the biggest problem is that this situation scaries out really interesting people and prevents us from making new interesting and pleasant contacts with ones from other countries, other cultures and languages.
For now, no. But I think that you should try to get someone to help you. We have a big user database, and not all of them are active but the active ones can't manage bugs or etc.
so should every other autistic blindy
Thank you for creating this survey, I'm looking forward to the election coming soon so we'll hopefully get bac to a constructive, open-minded and nice community together.
thanks for the pool!
I feel sorry for the developer. It must hurt like hell when you try to fix something and Eltenchildren kick your ass.
Idk
I'm hoping for a normal Elten English community group with less spam and insults.Also, it would be good if Elton has a media catalog like with Clango.
none
Just ban offending users, like karmien, CritterPup, Jonathan. In the thread about this study they showed that they can't live without drama.
As a side note, on june 23th, it would be seven years for me on Elten.
I feel sorry for pajper. I may get irritated with him sometimes, but behavior towards him on the forum is outrageous.
I saw a thread about this poll and I will say this: it makes no sense. I don't know whether pajper was right upon deleting posts, but users responded with such contempt and insults that even if he had made a mistake, they made a hundred times bigger one. I thought Sir-Charlie's candidacy was good option, but after what I saw I don't believe it anymore.
I think there will be more users on elten once the mobile app gets releast.
I believed in Sir-Charlie's candidacy, but after what I saw in the thread about this poll, I think he absolutely will not be a good admin.
Sir charlie is, in my opinion, not quite suited for administrator role, as he does not seam to get some basic concepts regarding administration. Also on other platforms, he is known for having a lot of ties to toxic folks like gcw, he also has a hashtag in his signature that suggests he shall be unbanned(don't know how ironic that is mend though, #TakeGCWOutOfTheNursinghome). For reference, that user god banned because he said stuff like a user should rather stop breathing because the oxygen could be going to another person. Also it is his 3rd ban due to things like that, so wellfounded permaban in my opinion.
ser chair le isn't not even that good admin do to his last post's
I think if people could learn to debate or get less personal, things could be better for all of us. If we could be more tolerent, and kind to one another. Otherwise, if all insults continue, I don't see this community lasting long.
The forum is clunky and slow. The account system needs to be refined and have the feature of easily changing and verifying someone's username. Bans need to be more effective, as there are till stupid people about who haven't been delt with as has been talked about.
I hope that thins work out for all of us
I appreciate this being done. I can see why this took some time here, since this is long and well thought through. Just wonder what my native language matters haha. And the reason why I chose ser charly right now is that I don't see anyone in here that is better honestly. Like running a second election wouldn't lead to anywhere if we're all being honest.
I just want this community to be better and just want people to have a fun time being in it
None
I think it is highly important for Elten to grow in users. New users will change the vibe on the forum. Also there needs to be looked at the conference rooms, the main english one is toxic in my opinion.
personally, i use elten mainly for the voice chat/conferences function, i'm not really active on the forums.
no
with selecting of "Immaturity of some users" I mean this, but also the two things before, so offtopic and spam.
its fine
I still see a good future for Elten. Sure, there are rotten eggs as there are in other social platforms and situations, but with a spirit of as much harmony as is humanly possible, I believe this program and platform will go forward, and I look forward to seeing changes and growth!
Sir Charlie Is no good Administrator. Look at his (recent) History and you'll see this.
I wasn't exactly sure about the administrator question but whoever it's going to be I hope they use their role responsibly
n/a
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I'm DianaCician, but I dought my opinion is that interesting
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give me some nice moist children manny0211
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GeorgeWu
gerod
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Jonathan
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mohammedradwan I think is my username
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