Hi guys, so I've noticed that Elton's translation for English oftentimes is part English, part Polish, and I'm wondering how A, we can work on the translation, and B, how we can submit it in to the Elton developers to have it fixed. So if anybody could get back to me, I would very much appreciate it. Alright, that's it for me.
well guys i kind of understand your pain you know i really do but we have to remember that this program is still developing and to be honest only one person is mainly working on everything right from what i know the main developer and you know he has other things to do as well you know we all got our private lives and we got some kind of time limits limits right we can just you know and i'm not saying i'm engaged in the project not really but you know since i'm a user or the lawyer user and i use elton a lot then i have an idea of the situation you know the program is still developing and not too many people working on it i guess and then so we have to be patient simple you know
Right, and you're totally right. This thing is in active development, and there's only one person working on this. Really, I guess what I really am interested in figuring out is how can I help in working on the translation.
One thing that I just cannot comprehend is, there are so many people here who speak both languages so fluently, Polish and English that is, why they just don't go ahead and help translating? Seriously, I just cannot comprehend that.
Neither. In a linguistic point, I don't understand what you're saying to me and to the other on the translation teams. You know, I speak two languages, English and Spanish, and I'm also the maintainer and Spanish translator for Elton. I think many people are uncertain about the translation method. That's the reason why I proposed the GetText method or translation via PODID or via .PO files to get more precise translations and methodology and language corrections. I was translating the application via PODID templates, so the translation could be more easily worked.
Well, yes, PoEdit is a great translation software, and I really would appreciate if in the distant future it might be implemented, or, well, that the translation method is gonna be switched to PoEdit, because it's a better translation, because I think this translation method is actually nothing but a dictionary, because if you, like, if you, like, edit a prompt, if you, like, write a prompt in a text field, and then let it speak, it'll speak into language that you have selected. It doesn't work always, but it works sometimes, and that's kinda weird, so I think PoEdit would be really a better translation method. Yeah.
Firstly, sorry for my voice. I don't know how I can tell your nickname. Chozosh, you asking why people knowing Polish and English language not helping with translate. For example, I'm not helping with translate, because my grammar is very bad, and I can translate and writing in English, and it's not good. After my help with translation program, I can be not translated correctly.
and poet it can't work properly with elton because it's programmed for python
Right, and I wasn't really talking about you, I really should have made this a bit clearer. I wasn't necessarily talking about you there because, um, I know that you have problems with English grammar and such, so I really mean people who speak English very fluently, I really mean people who speak both languages like natives, and yes there are people here who have the ability to speak the language like natives, pretty much like I do actually, or even better, and I don't understand why these people don't help. I wasn't necessarily talking about you there, Dash.
And some people just don't have time. That's quite simple, isn't it? Yes, I could do it, because, you know, you probably meant me, right? But the thing is, I cannot, you know, engage on such a scale, because I've got other things to do as well. But if someone asks me for help, I will help. But, like, voluntarily, I won't do it.
hi everyone it's me again I treat to translate chef not translated options and use example from a go file translation file sentences I'm right correctly sentences in English and save the file and restart Elton to show my results and you nothing translated it's not working
button hello I found well I don't of course I live in Poland so it makes it makes it a bit I but Polish is in Polish is not an easy language as many will tell you and especially not with an English voice synthesizer so so I say this simply to say that for the most part I don't have a problem with the interface itself except sometimes with a few things such as the chess program but I don't think I think if someone could explain to me how it works I I I . probably could get around it but yes I think it takes time and remember on Clingo they were eight guys who did it and it was sometimes not enough because when they wanted to update it I remember in 2009 yes nine yes it wasn't two thousand two thousand and nine years ago it was it was a two thousand nine years nine years ago it was a two thousand nine years ago it was a two thousand 2009 with a big update. They have to fix quite a lot of bugs. It's not so easy. And so they had the transtool program at the time. I don't know if that's available here and some people could translate and then commit the files to the server. Yes, but I understand. But as I said, you know, it's not so easy. It's not so easy. So give the team a bit of time. Return. But what do you mean return? Stop recording.
One thing that is really stupid is just that if it isn't translated to English I can't translate it to German. Simple but stupid.
okay hi my name is Thierry van Doorn to begin with I already have Elton installed from several months now since Klango was shut down actually May 24 but it took me some time before I started to participate in the voice forum because for one or other reason each time I wanted to play a voice post it wasn't playing on my computer but now all of a sudden that changed and I'm glad I don't know what happened but that was just today anyway to come to talk about the thing here I find we should not always view things negatively but also view it from the positive side and and I think the main developer David Pieper I believe it's pronounced I'm not sure correct me if I wrong I know it's written PIEPER well to start up a program like Elton out of nowhere that's a really tremendous thing to do and I know there are several persons involved but in the beginning someone was saying it was the person under the username boycenter was just one person who started it and boy i can't understand that is a tremendous an overwhelming task to do such a thing as this so it's it's just amazing because the person who started the program did so because of the fact that when we still had clango nothing was done anymore in the later years of clango the the developers didn't look after the program any longer and many people were frustrated and that's why i think that person took the initiative to start up with something else with with a new program but for instance with clango it was so that the for a long time the voice form wasn't working anymore all the language that were available in clango english polish german spanish i believe there was also and so many clango users as we can call them as we could call them then were frustrated and it was out of that frustration that one person took it upon himself to just to start with elton and many people that that made the move from clango to elton were really very happy that something in as a replacement started to happen and of course i remember reporting on one of the the elton uh forum thread that was then in clango and i remember saying there in concerning elton that it was having children's sicknesses as you could give me the first date you could call that because and that's very normal when you start up a program there are all kinds of things that you do not expect that are happening that you have no idea of what what what's all involved and of course here we are some people are frustrating because messages are only announced in polish and not in their own language i mean what what do you expect if if you just start with with a new program and then a program that is um set up on a computer that's only programmed in in the polish language so and i saw this morning on one of the written forums on the computer and no not on computer under in the elton forum one of the about the translation issue that david peeper and again correct me if i'm saying this wrong um is just has to write out the whole dictionary to translate from one thing to the other and we also we only may have to expect the many problems to be solved with the new elton 2.3 and now we are in 2.27 i believe if i'm right so it will still be quite some time before we really will have 2.3 because with all the tremendous jobs that that is done and so as i say whoever is all involved now really all these persons need to be commended for what they are doing just to start up a program out of nowhere and because of this i mean we have here voice forums we have other forums in a writing way and then all the the other things that that you can do with uh with elton not that it is frustrating me but as i say the the only thing for me that doesn't work is the media catalog but i'm sure that will change that will change very soon but as soon as as it this problem is uh solved i'm more than willing to help out with the media catalog as soon as i can because i've done that for clango and just working on the media catalog that was that in itself was a tremendous jobs because there were so many radio stations we we tried to put into clango as many radio stations as possible but the radio stations do often change their urls to have better quality sometimes or some other issues that they are having and each time replacing those urls or other radio stations that don't exist anymore they had to be removed then and new radio stations that just started up they had to be added to the media catalog and that in itself was already a real job i was i remember i was working on that day after day um in a certain way i could say i was traveling around the whole world um from country to country from continent to continent just to check on on those radio stations so that in itself was already so imagine then the job of just starting up a whole new program just out of nowhere so i think all the persons that are participating in this that are involved in this need real real commendation for for just doing this and giving us so much pleasure that we are able again to use uh forum uh voice forums other forums other options that elton has so i mean nothing but commendation and and lots of courage on their part needs to go to these people so i think that that's about that's all about the fact that that i have to say here so just keep up the good work and uh we're all enjoying the fact that we are having such a nice program you
hi guys the only way like you can use the language file is included under where is it see colon backslash program files x86 Elton bin languages something I don't know where exactly and you can edit these files which are half Polish and half English just use the translator for this like I was changing also the some German parts of the translation file and for those if the developer has time or something you can always change the source code of the program it's on good hub um so since it is an open source project I mean you can do that also by yourself if you are if you have skills in the programming language Ruby or something I personally learning it actually but like as far as I figured out it you can also translate these stuff by yourself so this shouldn't be a problem if you have some if some people are here who understand Polish and who are also good in English so this might shouldn't be a problem in this case return stop recording
well try this again then you basically just type in the run dialog %appdata% hit enter and there's an Elton folder in that appdata folder press enter on that and there's an LNG folder and inside that is the translation files or whatever the language I have a German and an English went as far as I could with the with the English not all the phrases appear to be there so that's still here quite a few polish that are not translated I was able to figure out how to get some of them to work that weren't working by changing the case on that appdata folder and then I was able to get some of them to work that weren't working by changing the case on the polish but anyway but as far as I can it's in my shared files the English one that I did
why the Elton doesn't support a self translation edit thing I think maybe maybe you open a PO or I don't know what a file of translation and it's open like maybe a form document a text document add-on I don't know how the PO file is look like I will look and maybe I think that it can be special maybe audio form file maybe you maybe there is an audio form of text fields that you press tab and then there is a translation a special translation with field maybe I don't know what
Can you send me the link of the po-edit or how it calls? I don't know.