Hey there, another controversial take from me. Many Americans choose to be arrogant, ignorant and idiotic, simply because they have the freedom to do so. And because of this, I don't know whether to laugh or get mad, but the fact they have so called freedom of speech and a bunch of ammendments makes them feel as if they can justify all kinds of stupid behaviours, which anyone else would consider irresponsible or nonsensical to say the least. This includes edgy opinions and such. Not trying to attack Fernando here, because a lot of what he said in the past I could agree with and consider to be reasonable, but the discussion here made me remember that I always wanted to write this somewhere.
If you mean me. I know that he does not deny it. I still think it is discussable to say it is not immoral to deny it. That is what I am talking about at least. Both is not ok imo. Also I have no idea how you could question facts regarding such an event, again there is like, tons of clear and more than obvious evidence but ok? If someone wants to be that dumb then so be they, as long as it is legal in their country? Over here it is counted as incitement of the masses. -- (Sir-Charlie): I think the unfortunate thing is you're not even reading what he said clearly, because he said on multiple occasions he doesn't deny the holocaust. He believes the holocaust happened. He doesn't think it's immoral if someone questions the narratives sounding it, which IMO is legitimate. There's nothing immoral about questioning the exact facts regarding an event. Regarding the Mastodon post, I realise certain people have a vendetta against me and I won't be entertaining their foolishness. The thread was called most contravertial opinions. If you can't take the heat, then sucks to be you. Nobody expressed anything in here that could be construed as hateful or illegal, so I'm not sure what he expects. Unlike the author of that post, I'm able to exercise reading comprehension, and will not ban someone for something they didn't say nor believe. Frankly, Fernando has expressed some views which I personally find repugnant and disagree with, and that's OK. However, in this case, none of what he has said falls into that category. I would love to visit the consentration camps one day though. --
Attention all. A renowned holocaust scholar has arrived to educate us on all fascits of the tragedy, for the benefit of our minds and consciences. I'm sure it will be a good talk. He'll likely introduce us to the functionalist and intentionalists interpretations of the event, and provide us with an overview of the merrits and general arguments of each. Or perhaps he'll provide us with an up to date death toll, based on the latest scholarship in the field? Maybe he'll even find time to contend with child of Holocaust survivers Professor Norman Finklestein's thesis that denialism is for all intents and purposes a non-issue? - (Jonathan): It obviously can. Denying the confirmed death of 6 million people is not an idea, it is spreading misinformation which does not align with the facts. It's an exception in the law, and freedom of speech is in the basic law over here. Anyways, I think I'll continue enjoying my vacation rather than discussing about this with you.
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Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."
Na, I don't think I'm capable of that. But I enjoyed being educated about it. Was interesting honestly. An important topic more people should be educated about. Now stop provoking me with your nonsense and do better.
Also you have still not answered my question how clear evidence of it can still lead you to deny it. You have just continued saying you do not deny it, which is not really an argument in my eyes. So if you're bored enough, I'd actually be interested how your denyer friend thinks the ovens and cells and all the other evidence is explainable. Might just bang my head against a wall after reading that crap but whatever.
But I am genuely interested, can we go back to that thing with "Nazi economics was undeniably leftwing." from @63? Would you let me know how? Because what I'd consider to be left wing these days does not really have anything in comon with this, while right wing, well, partly. So how come you think that?
I think the question is in the number of jews that were actually murdered during the programme but IDK, I never had the need to look into holocaust denial.
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.
The intent wasn't to provoke, I'm demonstrating that you are not as educated on the subject as you seem to believe yourself to be since you're calling my own knowledge into question. -- (Jonathan): Na, I don't think I'm capable of that. But I enjoyed being educated about it. Was interesting honestly. An important topic more people should be educated about. Now stop provoking me with your nonsense and do better.
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Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."
Straight from vikipedia: From 1941 to 1945, Nazi Germany and its collaborators systematically murdered around six million Jews across German-occupied Europe, approximately two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population. -- (Sir-Charlie): I think the question is in the number of jews that were actually murdered during the programme but IDK, I never had the need to look into holocaust denial. --
I'm not sure how I'd be able to answer this question since clear evidence does not, in fact, lead me to deny it. -- (Jonathan): Also you have still not answered my question how clear evidence of it can still lead you to deny it. You have just continued saying you do not deny it, which is not really an argument in my eyes. So if you're bored enough, I'd actually be interested how your denyer friend thinks the ovens and cells and all the other evidence is explainable. Might just bang my head against a wall after reading that crap but whatever.
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Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."
That doesn't follow it all. Recall my framing has always been that it is not *inherently* immoral to deny it. Not that denial can never be considered immoral, not that denial is ever a moral good, simply that there are circumstances in which denial is not necessarily morally reprehensible.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."
https://mises.org/mises-daily/nazi-economic-policy -- (Jonathan): But I am genuely interested, can we go back to that thing with "Nazi economics was undeniably leftwing." from @63? Would you let me know how? Because what I'd consider to be left wing these days does not really have anything in comon with this, while right wing, well, partly. So how come you think that?
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Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."
It's even worse when they assert their rights in situations they just planely don't apply. Such as appealing to the first amendment when they're banned from a privately run game or forum. -- (djsenter): Hey there, another controversial take from me. Many Americans choose to be arrogant, ignorant and idiotic, simply because they have the freedom to do so. And because of this, I don't know whether to laugh or get mad, but the fact they have so called freedom of speech and a bunch of ammendments makes them feel as if they can justify all kinds of stupid behaviours, which anyone else would consider irresponsible or nonsensical to say the least. This includes edgy opinions and such. Not trying to attack Fernando here, because a lot of what he said in the past I could agree with and consider to be reasonable, but the discussion here made me remember that I always wanted to write this somewhere.
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Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."
Damn me, I need to look at links more closely in the future. Agree with Jonathan on the matter though. And I'm no Friedrich Merz backer by any means, I didn't even vote for him in the first place. But My impression is that it will get even worse with the AfD.
Ok, bringing this back to topic, here's a hot take from me regarding privacy. First, I need to say that I'm pro privacy in general. Yet, I think that people who are very desperate to raise privacy concerns don't think about what it means to live 100 % privacy conforming. Doing that only works when you sit in a corner all the time, doing nothing I guess.
IDK, I feel like it's kind of mixed. I think where I can get some privacy without impacting my life I will but also there's not much you can do about it if you wanna have a normal life and be seen as normal in this society as far as it goes because of your blindness. Like, for example. Right now I would, in no case, switch to Linux. The privacy is great, but the usage is not and basically nothing works for me. But I was less dependent on Windows applications and it was actually usable, i definitely would choose the path. Sorry kind of messy typed and may not be super proper my opinion but.
@97, it's unfortunate this is a hot take. A lot of people, particularly in this space really does overdo it when it relates to privacy and they let it completely incapsulate their whole personality
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.
