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Thoughts on drug decriminalization?

Politics, Philosophy And Religion

Fernando

#1 ·

My own stance may surprise some of you, I'm personally in favor of it. After giving serious thought to the issue, I've found the standard arguments against decriminalization less than convincing, and the arguments in favor more consistent with my political philosophy overall.. I'm interested in hearing differing perspectives on the issue though, so feel free to post your own here.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

blindflatearthernewcomp

#2 ·

this loozer was lait to the party
I realise I know little compared to what all is true, I try to think, and the one thought I can no longer be swaid on is that god is very real. That being the case I will try to live in accordence to the way christ intends for us to act. Time to give up the weel.

djsenter

#3 ·

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In my opinion drugs should not only be decriminalised, but legalised.
We have seen formats of decriminalisation but not legalisation in Canada, where fentanyl overdoses are very frequently common. The users are still being supplied by shady dealers, who cannot be trusted with what they sell and a minor difference now is that the dealers can sell drugs with less risk.
If drugs were legal and this is backed by various studies and cases where such an experiment has been tried either in the case of one drug or more, like Uruguay, Netherlands, there could be regulatory laws around the supply, quality of the substances, who sells them and let's not forget the education, because there wouldn't be stigma around discussing the potential sideeffects and correct doses, which would likely lead to less overdoses, deaths and more research into their medical properties.
Senter San

Fernando

#4 ·

Agreed.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

thespyde

#5 ·

As for me, I've seen what happens to states that legalize marijuana either for medical or recreational reasons. I don't see any good that can come out of going down this road.
Strange, Troubled Times...

djsenter

#6 ·

Could you elaborate? I'm genuinely curious/
Senter San

thespyde

#7 ·

People use drugs as a crutch, whether for perceived expansion of creativity or whatever their excuse. What actually happens is that their intelligence slips, sometimes slowly, sometimes more rapidly.

People aren't grasping their education so that they are becoming less and less able to do ordinary tasks that used to be done with pure common sense. Some of that is the fault of education itself but another big part of that equation is more and more reliance on drugs.
Strange, Troubled Times...

Sir-Charlie

#8 ·

Can you provide evidence of this?
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.

thespyde

#9 ·

Evidence is probably hard to cobble together, but I've read enough news stories and even human interest to see the trends of which I spoke occurring.
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djsenter

#10 ·

Anything has potential for abuse, if you ask me.
Besides, there will always be people using drugs for something, so I think they should still be pure and legal, so that they will harm themselves less than they otherwise would.
Senter San

thespyde

#11 ·

A strange premise to be sure. Alcohol is perfectly legal and I don't see anyone harming him/herself any less.
Strange, Troubled Times...

djsenter

#12 ·

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First of all, alcohol is scientifically proven to be more damaging and harmful than many other drugs like cannabis.
Secondly, some substances like psilocybin found in certain kinds of mushrooms have potential for therapeutical use in clinical environments. So I wouldn't throw them all in one box.
Senter San

Fernando

#13 ·

I think these arguments miss the point. Yes, it is true that every one of these substances are objectively harmful without acception, if for no other reason than because they compromise one's rational faculties in some way. But it does not follow from this that their distribution or use should be prohibited by the state. Especially not when the consequences of the state doing so are taken into consideration.
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

Fernando

#14 ·

*exception*
Chesterton, G.K. "When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing; they then become capable of believing in anything."

Sir-Charlie

#15 ·

@9, you open post 5 by saying you've seen what happens to states who decriminalise drugs, therefore, what states are you talking about and what has happened to them?
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.

thespyde

#16 ·

Louisiana for one, Colorado for another, Both states have had bad affects from legalizing.
Strange, Troubled Times...

TrevonHakeem

#17 ·

You come talking about bad effects and after 5 posts you still stay saying nothing?
Ok great, we know you don't like drugs, but that's not an argument, that's just feelings.

thespyde

#18 ·

There's enough proof out there.
Strange, Troubled Times...

Sir-Charlie

#19 ·

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@17, Thank you GPT
All that I survey, I could easily destroy. From time to time, it is important to remind these small creatures of the true extent of my power.

TrevonHakeem

#20 ·

@18
We not seeing it, so maybe you show it to us, right?