Official comment on the current situation of English Community

I've been observing this situation for a few weeks now, and I have some conclusions.
Jacob, from what we can see, you're not suited to be the administrator of this group. This isn't a personal attack on you as a person.
You haven't behaved inappropriately, and as far as I can tell, you've never broken the rules. You've made an effort to stay polite, and I truly see and appreciate that - it's something this discussion space often lacks. It's also clear that you believe in this project and genuinely want the best for it.

But you don't have the right skills to lead this group. Maybe if things weren't so tense, if this community weren't on the verge of complete collapse, it wouldn't be so obvious. But right now, we're dealing with a total disaster in both internal and external communication of your team.
We can see that there's no agreement or unity even among the moderators, and decisions are made impulsively and emotionally.

I can't say how well you performed as a moderator - that's something for daszekmdn to assess - but it's clear that you're simply not the right person to be an administrator.
And that's OK. No one is suited for everything, and no one can be certain they'd do a better job.

The question now is: what next? But I don't see an answer. We could organise another election, but that would just be yet another chapter in this endless charade.
Maybe we should instead observe independent groups and see if any of them gain enough popularity to prove they’re fit to become the official one?

Thank you so much for writing this post, seriously, I haven't expected this and I'm glad someone at a higher level still cares. I'm not sure. On the 1 side we have seen all sides now. I don't believe a reelection will change something huge either, but maybe, maybe we might get someone suitable at this point? Though I honestly dubt it. I mean there are several other groups now but non of themm actually establishing so far because the main group is still open to post so why should you post elsewhere with less members? So if we'd do it, this one should be closed down imo.

Hello, glad we got this thread open.
So here's my opinion: Making other elections will lead us to nowhere, because right now, I realise it's not a matter of who should be administrator, but rather the group / community itself should be rebuilt from scrach.
I don't know how many unofficial English communities there are right now, but we should find a group which is ready for becoming the official English community. I mean ready by having a clear set of rules and staff members that don't have bad reputation.
Then this group should be closed when we are ready for that, as for it's content I don't really know what should be done with it. We all know there are a lot of drama and posts which have no use or point but on the other side, there are nice topics and interesting tips, advices and let's say, useful and fun stuff.
I don't know who should decide what to do with that, but I think changing the official group is more important now. I look forward to a better community. Thanks for reading.

We don't have any better english community, Now we can just wait.

Personally i think that new election will be better than creating community from scratch, because there are a lot of informative content which can be lost.

If I may, I do know that by posting this I am at risk of serious backlash do to my unfortunate reputation. But might I suggest not only a new election, but somehow maybe the winner of said election was to do a confrence of some kind with the person in charge, sorry don't know how to spell your name wrong and would hate to butcher it, and that way they can get a clearer understanding of the duties the new administrator would have to follow both from the rules document, but from an auditory perspective. That way, the admin can't say they didn't know the rules because they heard it, and read it. Hope this helps :)

You're apsolutely right. I think if we were to start from scratch, things would be better and more organize around here. And I'm not really that worried. After all I am the administrator for the elten english community conference channel for kids. And because I created that Separate from the main elten english community group. It can't be taken away. So maybe I can be in charge of the one for kids. I can make sure that everyone on there will be safe from any personal attacks to those underaged users.

@1: Archive everything and set the group to read-only, take away the staff and set yourself as admin so it is really just an archive of things. Then see where the next months will lead us, because basically automatically there will be a new community forming. Which will be the best and most stable will establish itself. I think waiting till January of 2026 would be a good thing.
@Jacobww (7), I think you got the situation wrong. Read post 1, everyone decided against you to have the administrator role.

This is probably the worst idea you've heard in a long time, but what about deviding the English community into two groups, one for technology and one for the other stuff. Because most of the drama happens in the other forums. This might allow us to have at least a tech community without problems and another commnity with different moderators than the tech community.

I was supporting Jacob all the way when he first became admin, but what I feared from this day had happened unfortunately. I don't mind him to be admin personally.

Yep it indeed is. This does not bring us further to a good solution.
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This is probably the worst idea you've heard in a long time, but what about deviding the English community into two groups, one for technology and one for the other stuff. Because most of the drama happens in the other forums. This might allow us to have at least a tech community without problems and another commnity with different moderators than the tech community.

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@9, the problem still stands. Whose going to moderate either?

Man noone will join there because the main one is more interesting

-- (Jacobww3):
You're apsolutely right. I think if we were to start from scratch, things would be better and more organize around here. And I'm not really that worried. After all I am the administrator for the elten english community conference channel for kids. And because I created that Separate from the main elten english community group. It can't be taken away. So maybe I can be in charge of the one for kids. I can make sure that everyone on there will be safe from any personal attacks to those underaged users.

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I agree that there is some good stuff on here. However, I think this group should be closed down. Even if we elected some new mods, people on here don't get a long. And whatever you do nothing pleases them. We could be going round in a circle for a 3rd or 4th time. Cumming back to the same problem each time. Perhaps the best thing in the end is just to have private conferences and private messages, and no main forums. I don't know. Feel free to disagree.

yeah. tbh I think its time for this group to go

The problem is, if we close down this group, all historical data will be lost and it will be bad. We have to figure out a way how to backup these posts because some of them contains attachments that users has attached And also not attachment posts.

Closing down and deleting are 2 different words, don't you think? Deleting is what your moderation did with so called personal insults which weren't insults... Closed down means you can still view the data but not post :)

So download all the attachments and attach them to attached posts which haven't been attached yet

-- (GeorgeWu):
The problem is, if we close down this group, all historical data will be lost and it will be bad. We have to figure out a way how to backup these posts because some of them contains attachments that users has attached And also not attachment posts.

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@ 17 I know that. @ 18, I always saved the attachments and put them to my external hard drive as backups just in case something might happen in the future with this group.
Post 2 and post 3 from the Manamon 2 topic about the save file is going to get restored back because I have put it to the moderation archive group and realized after I speak to Jacob it wasn't a personal attack. I asked him to see if he can restore the post back to the Manamon 2 save topic.

Wtf you really don't understand irony?