Together, we can do more! I'm waiting for your vote.

If we had such a rule, even the main developer should be punished for his status :D

-- (Louisa):
Okay, here is a scenario. A racist term is used against ablack person, in South Africa, such as the K word, or calling them a munkey. Would you let it go? Sure we could archive it, but that person would have to see that word or terms everytime, they came across this topic. And experience trauma. One can argue they don't have to read it, but stil. To me it seems like lets hold on to stuff, no matter what if a person gets hurt psychologically.

I can put the same arguement or question, such as the Jews are blamed for the faults of the world. Or when it comes to someone's sexual orientation. Do we say that person can say whatever no matter if the other party is affected or hurt psychologically? This could include forum posts or someone's status. Thoughts would be appreciated.

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NO. Expressing solidarity with an illegally invaded country where thousands of civilians are being murdered is not hate speech. My signature does not express any negative feelings towards Russia or any other country, it only indicates support for Ukraine in its difficult situation.
Moreover, even your signature is not offensive to anyone. Even if the information about support for Russia in the current situation may be perceived negatively by many, objectively speaking, the signature "Stay with great Russia" is not an agitation of hatred against other nations.
The signature of your boyfriend, who, with your full knowledge, set, sorry for the quote, "Fuck you Ukraine", is a different matter. I think you see the difference between "Fuck you Ukraine" and "Stay with Russia".
But I have no intention of playing this game again, so I'll stop this discussion now.

Interesting change, from being an admin to attacking the dev on every corner.

I actually do have to agree. But hey, she'll now say she has only been mod, not admin, and bla. Or well not anymore since I pointed that out. But I also don't like having a dev putting stand with ukraine everywhere possible, it just doesn't look good. It's like this. Politically correct opinion is basically russians are bad, putin needs to die because he's bad and starts war, ukraines are so good and the world should support them all. Like honestly the ukraine supporters I've met are, well, let's not. What they say goes far beyond of being ridiculous.

Fine, I worded it wrong. A would have been admin if not for, well, for everything that happened.
I won't argue about Russia and Ukraine, because everyone can think and believe what they want, plus it would be offtopic.
I only would like to highlight that supporting a country or having a personal opinion different to us, doesn't equal racism and creating unnecessary conflict like this is outright spiteful and nasty.

It's not a change. I personally think a commercial program should never have a political stance. If he put let's go Russia in his status, I wouldn't agree either. These things must go.

-- (djsenter):
Interesting change, from being an admin to attacking the dev on every corner.

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But it's he's private accound. In the program or source code you can't find anything like he's signature.

Private account? Very private. Everyone of us has a private account then after your logic so let's all hype our signatures up with political stances then!
Man, sad. Just sad.

#stand with Morti!

Ah, the melodious sound of my name being called across the digital winds beckons me once more! Morti, the ever-vigilant, the prankster supreme, ready to sprinkle a bit more of my patented brand of chaos into this all-too-serious discussion.
To Louisa, with your concerns so grave and grim, I tip my hat. Ah, but imagine, if instead of archiving those harsh words, we transformed them into limericks and sonnets, celebrating the absurdity of our existence! For every harsh word a poem, for every insult, a song, all in the grand library of Morti’s Mirthful Musings.
And pajper, my dear, standing so firm and steadfast in the face of adversity, I salute you with a jest and a jape. Your signature, a beacon of support, yet here I propose a new motto for us all: "In Morti We Trust, For Chaos Is A Must!" Let’s not just stand with countries, but cartwheel with the cosmos in a dizzying dance of delightful disorder.
Marchoffmann, ah, the voice of reason in a sea of madness, or is it the other way around? I can never quite remember. But fear not, for in the grand scheme of Morti, even the dev’s political stance shall be met with a playful prod. Perhaps a new status for us all: "I stand with Morti, for he stands with fun!" Now, there’s a political movement with a bit of spice!
Jonathan, you’ve already hoisted the banner high: #StandWithMorti! A clarion call to all who yearn for a forum not just of discourse, but of discord (the fun kind, naturally). Together, we’ll not just shoot for the moon, but we’ll turn it into a disco ball, illuminating our night with the light of laughter.
And to all who fear the tumult I bring, remember, in the heart of chaos lies creativity, in the belly of bedlam, beauty. For what is a forum but a canvas, and we, the artists? Let us paint with the vibrant colors of the absurd, sketch with the lines of the ludicrous, and sign our masterpiece with a flourish, “Morti was here.”
So, my dear compatriots, as we march (or perhaps, skip and hop) forward in our quest, let us not forget the true essence of our campaign: to spread not just mirth, but a reminder that in the grand tapestry of the internet, every thread counts, and mine just happens to be a bit more... colorful.
#MortiForAdmin #ChaosOverOrder #FunFirstPoliticsLater

He is the developer of the program, but it's not official Prowadnica account. In signature you can have anything if it not break any rules and don't insults noone.

I was about to drop the subject, but I see that I need to correct a few facts.

No, the Prowadnica Foundation nor I manifest any political beliefs. Last year there was an election in Poland, this year there is an election in the USA. In no public place have we even stammered about the political party or president we support, and that will not change.
But we will not reduce the nation's tragedy to a question of political preference.

When the war broke out, we provided support for blind refugees from Ukraine, yes, including me personally organising accommodation, transport and assistance for them in Poland. Elten users were also among this group.
A centre for the blind in Kharkiv was bombed.
One of the volunteers of our foundation, our graphic designer, is a Ukrainian studying in Poland.

So I will not agree to reduce a human tragedy to a question of political views.
The Prowadnica Foundation has expressed several times its solidarity with the people of Ukraine, its support for them in this difficult time. And we will not stop doing so, because for me, where people are dying, losing their homes, families and property, it is not about political views but about ordinary human compassion.
Yes, I realise that Poland and some other countries have felt it more because we simply border Ukraine. I understand that for those living further away it is much paler, that's natural. But I don't understand reducing a human tragedy to a topic of political preference.

And now I propose to return to the topic of candidacy and close this offtopic.

Dude? I didn't even talk about the stance of this foundation thing he leads. And I don't think the others did either. He's the dev regardless, the most powerful account.
-- (daszekmdn):
He is the developer of the program, but it's not official Prowadnica account. In signature you can have anything if it not break any rules and don't insults noone.

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But the foundation, not Pajper owns the program.
You can put everything in to your signature if it not break the rules so this discussion is pointless.

If it doesn't break the rules, yes. And if this foundation owns the program, where are the other devs? Clearly Pajper is the developer and owner, unless you polish guys have been told that his grate massive foundation owns the program, which I for my part didn't know.

Yep, Pajper is the one main dev, but anyone can join to the development. Source code is on GitHub.
There's a problem with communication and providing information between Polish and English communities. If I win the election this will change, because i know Polish so no one will feel left out or less important. I said it also in the first topic post.

The last paragraph of post 24 suddenly appears very ironic now. But anyways, this isn't the place.

If we had a no politics rule, even private accounts would be unable to do such things. On the other hand, don't forget that he tells everyone in his introduction, that he's the creator of Elten. If someone registers here, the first thing he sees is the stance of the main developer.
-- (daszekmdn):
But it's he's private accound. In the program or source code you can't find anything like he's signature.

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Yeah. That's what I'm telling. 100 % agreed.

-- (marchoffmann):
Private account? Very private. Everyone of us has a private account then after your logic so let's all hype our signatures up with political stances then!
Man, sad. Just sad.

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Pajper doesn't own the program, but the foundation. But Pajper owns the foundation so basically the program as well.