The voting is over. Stop wining now like children who couldn't get the toy that they wanted.

I have only 3 words to this. We won't stop. Critisicing is not the same thing as wining.
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The voting is over. Stop wining now like children who couldn't get the toy that they wanted.

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But your way of critisizing is child like, almost wining.

How is it wining to show what arctic has been and is still doing wrong?

Jesus what's going on here. To be honest I have no words left.

Reading all of this, I'm not against live debates and such but I'm afraid it wouldn't be any better than this crazyness here. Learn to behave first, and after that we might talk about live debates. I'm saying it as an average person now, since I'm not an admin yet at all.

It is going on that people are displaying to you how much they like you, sorta i guess.

and btw why don't you respond to any of our points? Well to be fair i didn't expect anything else.

If i will be she i also wouldn't respont to anything which was said here due to how it was said.

Exactly. I'm ignoring all of it for a good reason.

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If i will be she i also wouldn't respont to anything which was said here due to how it was said.

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Ignoring criticissm is never a good idea. This mait come over a bit harsh, but dash, where exactly have you made your 6 years moderation? I have never seen a person with this atitude last so long.

I agree, too.
And let's see the live debates! It would be cool imho.
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If i will be she i also wouldn't respont to anything which was said here due to how it was said.

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I can only repeat what i said. Trying to talk your self out of criticissm because you don't like the tone or the amound is a broken mindset and a bad, old excuse for just not wanting to take it.

First of all, I would like to congratulate the winner. Formal issues will be resolved in the coming days.

Secondly, what happened in this thread is absolutely beyond criticism. Each of us has our own opinion, we may like someone or not, but 55% of people voted for ArcticMoon. This time, not only did you not respect those users, but you started ragging and personal insults even before she could make any decisions. I wanted to remain impartial in this entire dispute because I care about the good of the community, but I must say something: this is too much. Losing an election is one thing. Not agreeing with someone's views, of course. Expressing your disappointment, absolutely. I also disagree with some of ArcticMoon's actions. But what you presented here clearly tells me that none of the people insulting here should win this vote.
Our actions speak best about us when we fail. If you are capable of such a level of verbal aggression, aggression, at least in Polish law, already punishable, it does not reflect well on you and I am very sorry that I had to read this.

And you don't get the problem either. Don't blame you though. No word about arctic moons insulting of a user that just critisiced her views and then trying to play it out as experiment. No word about 55 percent voting her but almost no one defending her, and the ones defending her basically confirm what we said. Dash, friend of arctic moon. Balteam, as far as i have seen, rarely ever posting. Fati, not even making any point, except the one about the spelling wihch is bogus to say the least. I would say the same thing if i didn't even participate, cause it's not about i i win the vote, it's about this community not going downhill. But if not even the dev sees and aknowledges the problem, then good bye elten i guess, cause this will make it break again and again and again.

Sorry for double posting, but even you @pajper. Use it as excuse to complain about the tone of the critic and use this as an excuse not to react to any single point. Seriously first the social experiment tale and now that, i feel like we are time traveling to youtube 2014.

@karmien I guess you'll stop speaking in this manner, only if you could become admin. Your stance is an angry loser stance, nothing else. You keep going and saying the same things over and over again, asking people to make points about things that they even don't slightly care about. I'm joining this discussion just for fun, really. I don't have a wish to even defend myself or whatnot.

No, Karmien, your words speak only about you. Even if they were completely true, because of the form in which you express yourself, you are only talking about yourself.
If you can't conduct a polite conversation, instead you have to insult others, you're changing way people see you, not way people see others.
The first rule of constructive criticism requires respect for the other people, I don't see that anywhere here.

All that guys saying they'll for sure say good bye to EC, cause it's totally down - lets do it, please, and stop posting here. That'll be the best way to show your maturity and consequence.

No. I care for this program to much then let it go th the complete bs. And no, if someone asked me about the voting fase i would say same things then i do now even if i became dev of elten. All you guys here try to do is push the criticissm away by complaining about minor things or things that idn't even happen. And that even the dev is participating in this bs is frustrating to say it nicely.
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All that guys saying they'll for sure say good bye to EC, cause it's totally down - lets do it, please, and stop posting here. That'll be the best way to show your maturity and consequence.

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