so I want to swich to androide because I'm fucking sik of apples limiteding bullshit. getting the google pixel and I want to know how good is talkback on androide. thanks

As always, it depends on whom you ask. I know iOS people buying cheap Android devices, trying a few things and throwing it away because of missing services, poor performance, inaccessible apps and launchers, concluding the whole Android platform is bad. Indeed you will be faced with a few partly annoying challenges that simply don't exist under iOS, but they can be insignificant if you are able to lower the barrier in your head, and find a nice community of helpful users. The last part isn't that different from iOS. You should also think about the apps you need, and which of them are available on the other side. The rest is simply just another user interface.

The pixel series is a good starting point. I don't like the under-display finger print, but over all I'm satisfied with my device. Be careful with the a series, at least the 6A is known to have some TalkBack issues.

Expect programs to come out last for Android devices. I came to that conclusion by listening to a podcast someone put up to document his iOS to Android switch. He noticed programs are targeted to iOS, then to Android.

i'm very happy with android, i'll not go back to IOS. Altough i have to admitt that sometimes i do miss IOS.

To be honest I'm having the exact same question. When you guys say you are happy with android, why? Those few of you who switched from iOS, what are the biggest differences you've experienced so far? (negative and positive as well, of course)
Why do we need to lower the barrier in our head? Does it mean android provides less things, while telling blind users it's the bright future?

What would be a good android phone if not the pixle.

Well what I had one day was a galaxy s9 from samsung, now I have iPhone again since a few years and still have a galaxy tab s6 from 2020, I don't use it actively though. But I always liked samsung, the other devices never seemed so poppular or welcoming to me, or I never heard many people actually having phones from google either. Except blind people. But my friend also has a samsung one and he's satusfied, he switched from iOS. It really depends what you want with it.

As with every device, choosing iOS or Android is a very personal decision at the end. For me it was the huge open-source Android community. It is a great feeling to directly get in touch with developers to improve accessibility of their apps, or even contribute own code if you have the knowledge. I could develope my own things, I easily can install what I like, and from whatever source I trust. Some developers ignore user input, but most are very thankful for any community help. IOS by nature doesn't have such a community, or let's say not in this manner.

Generally one system isn't better than the other nowadays in terms of day by day tasks. Blindness-related apps exist on both systems. Android has Google Lookout and Envision AI for text and object recognition tasks and so on. Some bigger or smaller usability and accessibility glitches can be found on both systems. I've seen things on iOS which I absolutely don't like, in summary iOS has a perfectly boring impression on me, and I'll never use my iPhone as main device. But I totally understand why one prefers iOS. So by suggesting to lower your inner barriers I simply encourage you to accept Androids little imperfections and try to find out if changing the system is really an option. If not, then stay with what you have and like, thats totally fine. As said, I like open source software, but I would never use thinks like e. g. Linux as my desktop operating system. Windows might be evil, but for me it still is the best solution. Android versus iOS is similar.

is there a place wear I can get some cheep androide to lern it and refund it? and I nead facetime and imessage so that's going to be very hard to swich. but I will try everything I can because I'm sik of apples bullshit

I am using a samsung a72 right now. every thing with android is fine, @radiorobbe.
and also same, @tonio2007.

@khalil2009 Have a look at Motorola devices If you prefer stock Android. In any case try to get a device running at least Android 12, this ensures you have the latest TalkBack features such as swipe up/down actions like Voiceover on iOS. Samsung for whatever stupid reason has it's own TalkBack and currently doesn't support these gestures, but you can install Google's TalkBack somehow. I personally never would buy samsung phones. After Google they are the fastest regarding updates, but I don't like all the junk and unnecessary changes on their devices.

Radiorobbe, thank you, this was a well written answer. As much as I'm aware, many people prefer pixel over samsung, xiaomi and other stuff is the fact that it's pure android from Google, without unique, or sometimes unnecessary tweaks which other companies include. In two weeks I'll have the possibility to test an android for myself, thanks to my generous boyfriend who shows everything :) and then I'll see if I seriously want to switch or not.

again I'm leaning tords a pixel phone because it comes with stock androide with out the blote of shitty samsong

To post 9, FaceTime is iOS only.

If someone creates a facetime link, as far as I know you can join with whichever kind of device.

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To post 9, FaceTime is iOS only.

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O yes I think it was a browser thing for those things wasn't it?

yeah its a browser thing

Yeah but then if you need it so much it's kinda possible then yk.

Yep, you'll be stuck accepting links from other people. If this will do, go for it.

Tbh right now I'm also thinking about switching to android, since my iPhone battery gets worse. But I wonder, can you somehow transfer some iOS stuff over? Also, if anyone knows and I don't think so, how usable are discord and snapchat on android? Thanks.